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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote openthegate Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 2019 at 11:01
Hopefully Harrogate vs Ilkley will have two strong sides out this weekend.

Forresters vs Cleck will be a good game and good to see how good wdale 2's are against a league side
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tulip Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 2019 at 13:06
Well Wharfedale 2nds are top of merit league. so I think it will be a good game.
Tigers 2nds only a few points behind.
I'm still of the opinion that the Yorkshire Cup should be a 2nd XV cup and give the lads who don't get paid a
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote openthegate Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 2019 at 17:16
Probably have the same problem though as teams won't want to travel to W'dale, gate, Sheff Tigers and who ever is top of the merit league.
Also how do you regulate who is or isn't a 2nd team player especially in the final?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 2019 at 17:45
That is not a new of unique problem. Australia and New zealand do it in their grand finals.

Usually you require a player to have played in a certain number of matches for the side in question - or have a doctor's note as to why not - and not to have played more than a threshold for a higher team.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Alfred Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 2019 at 19:42
The Yorkshire Cup match between Wharfedale and Cleckheaton is off since Cleckheaton are unable to raise a full side due to injuries and unavailablilities. Cry
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tulip Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Feb 2019 at 07:49
Originally posted by Alfred Alfred wrote:

The Yorkshire Cup match between Wharfedale and Cleckheaton is off since Cleckheaton are unable to raise a full side due to injuries and unavailablilities. Cry


Surely that's a walkover to Wharfedale then Alfred
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote backrowb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Feb 2019 at 08:55
Cleckheaton sitting right on the edge of the relegation zone and having lost 6 on the bounce. One can understand their reluctance to play. A shame for Dale 2nds who need strong matches
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Alfred Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Feb 2019 at 09:00
Originally posted by tulip tulip wrote:

Originally posted by Alfred Alfred wrote:

The Yorkshire Cup match between Wharfedale and Cleckheaton is off since Cleckheaton are unable to raise a full side due to injuries and unavailablilities. Cry


Surely that's a walkover to Wharfedale then Alfred


Tulip - you are correct. See http://www.wharfedalerufc.co.uk/?p=31283
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It is heart breaking for those of us who have been involved in the Yorkshire Cup over many years to see its current status. It has become pointless. RIP. Shame on YRFU for allowing this to happen.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Feb 2019 at 10:57
Not just Yorkshire.

Last season Cambridge II cancelled Zoo Shield matches to play in the Cambridgeshire Cup.
And then the matches were cancelled. I am not sure if we played any cup matches in the end.
Oddly this season we chose not to enter.  Their are five teams in the county cup this season.

In the intermediate cup (9 entries) two quarter finals were conceded.
In the junior cup (12 entries from 11 clubs) 12 games have been organised and at least 4 have been conceeded. There are also two with no score recorded, so it could be 6. However, the match between Shelford 4 and 5 looked like a cracker - Shelford 4 winning by a point.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote greeneyed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Feb 2019 at 11:24
Three of the four quarter-final matches will not be played. If the other match is played, three of the four clubs in the semi-final will have played not one single match to get there.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pristine Shorts Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Feb 2019 at 12:36
Two Ilkley players from last weekend in the Yorks U20 : none from Harrogate that I can see. No complaints, just an observation.

If this is the only one going to be played, it’s a crying shame and a waste of time, apart from for training purposes. Wonder if there’s an international on.....

Ilkley play Harrogate away on April 6th anyway.

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Get your excuses in early PS............
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pristine Shorts Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Feb 2019 at 16:09
Tee hee ! As I said, it was an observation.
 
Just looking on the YRFU website : of the 5 Preliminary matches, 3 were played ; in Round One, out of 8 matches, 3 were played and in the Quarter-finals, only one match will be played.
 
This is farcical. Sheffield and Wharfedale have not played at all and Sandal just once, yet all are into the last four.
 
I note too that the ' draw ' for the semi-finals has been removed - does this suggest a cancellation of the remainder of the Cup ?
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They, the powers that be, inferred weeks ago that the Yorkshire cup was likely going to be shelved for this season. I suspect they didn't announce it publicly to see how the teams still involved were going to see it through.
Think the answer is now clear.

There seems to be little appetite amongst clubs for Cup competitions, just nobody has told the RFU yet.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Puli. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Feb 2019 at 13:41
It is a great shame that a competition originating in 1878 for "T'owd Tin Pot" should virtually disappear, but that is a sign of the times I’m afraid, clubs are naturally more concerned about their League status nowadays and I can see the competition being disbanded in the not too distant future, and the Sterling Silver trophy, with many great names engraved on it, being put away to gather dust in some cupboard.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote openthegate Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Feb 2019 at 14:37
It's worth around £20,000, so hope it doesn't go in a cupboard somewhere and forgotten!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Raider999 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Feb 2019 at 17:18
It seems to me that this subject has more minutes of hot air than rugby played in the last couple of years.

Time for it to be permanently binned perhaps?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tulip Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Feb 2019 at 18:02
Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

It seems to me that this subject has more minutes of hot air than rugby played in the last couple of years.

Time for it to be permanently binned perhaps?


How's the Sussex Cup doing mate. If you have that opinion don't read it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote OldNick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Feb 2019 at 18:48
Possibly better placed in the ‘Counties’ sub-forum than here.
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