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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Redted Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jun 2020 at 15:35
And they talk about Southern softies!
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Well just about the only change not being suggested is that both teams pull instead of pushing. Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Raider999 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jun 2020 at 17:34
Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Well, 400 miles from the South Pole. Both bases retain staff there all winter, to do observations and maintain the buildings. Last flight out was at the end of February and the last ships left a few days before ours did. The next flight is in September. Now that is a proper lockdown!


I think they are referring to the fact that February is not in the Winter at the South Pole
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kimbo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jun 2020 at 17:48
Originally posted by Sid James Sid James wrote:

Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by kingsheathlad kingsheathlad wrote:

A letter in Rugby Paper today suggested reducing team to 13 players🙄

Are they trying to turn this into the lesser code? 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Robb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jun 2020 at 23:33
Originally posted by Sid James Sid James wrote:

Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by kingsheathlad kingsheathlad wrote:

A letter in Rugby Paper today suggested reducing team to 13 players🙄

Are they trying to turn this into the lesser code? 

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As posted elsewhere: Think the scrum will be ok, just won't play!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/53082607


1/ Post Oct 15th full season running  into May 

2/ Nov start 3/4 season playing most local clubs home and away and rest of clubs in league once (luck of the draw who you get home and away )

3/ Jan start 1/2 a season.

After announcements about theatres by UK Gov yesterday that they are looking for at the earliest a  Jan reopening I would suggest we are looking at option 3, as I cannot see any changing room at any ground being able to keep any sort of social distance!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Robb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jun 2020 at 17:37
But they also said yesterday that grassroots sport was to begin again at the start of July.
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Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

But they also said yesterday that grassroots sport was to begin again at the start of July.


Not sure rugby was included in that - they haven't even given a date for cricket to re-start.
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Interesting article on the BBC website regarding virus transmission and scrummaging:

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pappashanga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jul 2020 at 18:14
Surely the solution to this is to have everyone tested and when and if available, inoculated. All this stuff about where people cough is unpredictable and risky.
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Originally posted by Pappashanga Pappashanga wrote:

Surely the solution to this is to have everyone tested and when and if available, inoculated. All this stuff about where people cough is unpredictable and risky.


Premiership apart, where is the money coming from to test all players on a weekly basis?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pappashanga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jul 2020 at 12:21
How much does it cost to test someone? Whatever it costs, it has to be worth it, until inoculation arrives.









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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Count Ford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jul 2020 at 13:01
Finance wise I doubt there are any clubs that would be able to foot the testing bill unless they had someone like a Steve Lansdown willing to foot the bill




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Originally posted by Pappashanga Pappashanga wrote:

How much does it cost to test someone? Whatever it costs, it has to be worth it, until inoculation arrives.











Assume 40 per club per week ( need to test the expected 20 man playing squad, some reserves in case of positive tests/training injuries and coaches/medical staff - around £100 pp = £4K per week per club

Totally unrealistic for clubs below Premiership level IMO
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How much does it cost to test someone? Whatever it costs, it has to be worth it, until inoculation arrives.

Having a relative working for McLaren, each test costs £80. They have to be tested twice a week, so 40 players/officials costs £6400. Add in thermometers and it gets expensive. 



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Options could be a thermometer test on arrival for training, anyone with temperature sent off to get tested and not allowed back at the club until negative test result comes through. 

If social distancing being practiced away from the club by players, then the rest of the squad should be ok? Anyone with symptoms is allowed a free NHS test so cost to clubs is just the digital thermometer. It does rely on people being careful away from the rugby bubble though. 

Thinking only about National Leagues. 


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They can't just start training without a rigorous plan. starting contact sports without one is just plain dangerous and irresponsible. The figures put forward are tiny compared with the enormous sums this disease has cost and might cost in the future. Look at Australia in the past few days.
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Originally posted by Pappashanga Pappashanga wrote:

They can't just start training without a rigorous plan. starting contact sports without one is just plain dangerous and irresponsible. The figures put forward are tiny compared with the enormous sums this disease has cost and might cost in the future. Look at Australia in the past few days.


Agreed they are tiny in the big picture, but not sure many N1/N2 teams could afford the extra costs.

Remember, all teams have to be able to afford testing or there is no league.

As for the idea that people are responsible when it comes to sipocial distancing - recent pictures of Beaches and Drinkers at Pubs on Saturday would indicate a lot of people either think they are immune or don't care.
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Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Pappashanga Pappashanga wrote:

They can't just start training without a rigorous plan. starting contact sports without one is just plain dangerous and irresponsible. The figures put forward are tiny compared with the enormous sums this disease has cost and might cost in the future. Look at Australia in the past few days.


Agreed they are tiny in the big picture, but not sure many N1/N2 teams could afford the extra costs.

Remember, all teams have to be able to afford testing or there is no league.

As for the idea that people are responsible when it comes to sipocial distancing - recent pictures of Beaches and Drinkers at Pubs on Saturday would indicate a lot of people either think they are immune or don't care.

That's the whole point, the irresponsible element make us all suffer. It only needs one of them to be a rugby player to start the whole thing off again. Very depressing.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote workerbee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jul 2020 at 11:13
On current estimates there are still over 20,000 people who have tested positive for Covid 19 and probably the same who are asymptomatic so the chances of standing closely to someone in a pub is quite high especially as you saw the crowds on the beach and in the pub last weekend. The hot spots seem to have occurred around factories who have not put social distances in place and it shows how quickly a spike can flare up  if we do not keep to the guidelines. It will be interesting to see what happens in the next 4 weeks after the way people got together last Saturday. Remember the person standing next to you could have Covid!! 
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