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    Posted: 14 Jun 2020 at 15:15
I wonder what will happen to the scrum when rugby union returns. Impossible to distance, or indeed isolate, in a scrum.  Will it be suspended in favour of line-outs or free kicks? What is your take on this?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rabbie Burns Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jun 2020 at 16:26
Imo I don’t think there will be a return until scrums are possible
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There is more contact in a maul than scrum and I agree with RB. Pre-season in cold and wet.......
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Robb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jun 2020 at 20:24
Originally posted by normski normski wrote:

I wonder what will happen to the scrum when rugby union returns. Impossible to distance, or indeed isolate, in a scrum.  Will it be suspended in favour of line-outs or free kicks? What is your take on this?

Unless they just replace it with just a tap and go. 

But to paraphrase a famous phrase: "It's not rugby". Plus it would open the doors to further extreme law alterations further down the line. That's the only way I can think of where you might be able to avoid that notion of scrums being a corona risk.


Edited by Robb - 14 Jun 2020 at 20:25
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A letter in Rugby Paper today suggested reducing team to 13 players🙄
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MikeGC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jun 2020 at 09:35
Top flight rugby has restarted in New Zealand
From photographs I have seen, they seem to be scrummaging.
We may well get to that stage in a few months
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pappashanga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jun 2020 at 10:14
The scrum suggestions are absurd. You're going to get just as close in a line out or tackle. Even touch rugby requires proximity. I have a vision of a bizarre game played by a lot of men in space suits tasering each other instead of tackling.
Come one, they're all going to touch the same ball, unless it's covered with disinfectant this alone would pass on infection.
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Originally posted by Pappashanga Pappashanga wrote:

The scrum suggestions are absurd. You're going to get just as close in a line out or tackle. Even touch rugby requires proximity. I have a vision of a bizarre game played by a lot of men in space suits tasering each other instead of tackling.
Come one, they're all going to touch the same ball, unless it's covered with disinfectant this alone would pass on infection.



Think everyone will have their own ball as passing it would increase risks.

Scrums will be formed in line with guidance on self distancing at the time. Only function will be to congregate 16 people in a relatively small area allowing the backs room to play.
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If you can't tackle them there will be some 100 plus points for each side.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Raider999 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jun 2020 at 12:01
Originally posted by Pappashanga Pappashanga wrote:

If you can't tackle them there will be some 100 plus points for each side.


Yes, I wasn't sure how that was supposed to work - presumably the team with the fastest players win?
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There is always fantasy rugby. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Halliford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jun 2020 at 15:22
The RFU are looking at Touch Rugby to make it less like rugby league and more like rugby union. I'm struggling to get a vision of that!

Having been in New Zealand in early March, I was so impressed with the way their PM dealt with the issue, a total contrast to our blonde buffoon!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rabbie Burns Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jun 2020 at 17:19
Be careful of brining politics into it Halliford but as a counter argument NZ population is less than half that of London so not quite comparable
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Redted Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jun 2020 at 20:21
Population density is a big factor as is how Covid19 is reported.  
Italy only report deaths in Hospital for instance so under state the problem whereas Belgium report all deaths and therefore overstate things compared with the UK.

Antarctic no cases of Covid19.
Greenland, only 13 cases and no deaths.

Rugby Union without a scum is not Rugby Union.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Robb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jun 2020 at 20:28
Originally posted by kingsheathlad kingsheathlad wrote:

A letter in Rugby Paper today suggested reducing team to 13 players🙄

Are they trying to turn this into the lesser code? 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kingsheathlad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jun 2020 at 20:37
Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by kingsheathlad kingsheathlad wrote:

A letter in Rugby Paper today suggested reducing team to 13 players🙄

Are they trying to turn this into the lesser code? 

It wasn't an RFU recommendation, just an individual writing in to paper. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sid James Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jun 2020 at 22:12
Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by kingsheathlad kingsheathlad wrote:

A letter in Rugby Paper today suggested reducing team to 13 players🙄

Are they trying to turn this into the lesser code? 

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Originally posted by Redted Redted wrote:


Antarctic no cases of COVID-19

I was in Antarctica in February. We visited both the American and NZ bases in McMurdo Sound but were not allowed inside either in case anyone on our trip was an asymptomatic carrier. People came out to see us but stayed 2 metres away. Both Bases were already down to winter staffing so could not risk getting the virus in their bases. Amazing place, amazing trip! Seeing all of the Heritage huts really brought home the courage and tenacity of Scott, Shackleton, Borchgrevink and Amundsen.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CJB1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jun 2020 at 07:40
Winter staffing?  At the South Pole? LOL LOL LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Halliford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jun 2020 at 13:14
Well, 400 miles from the South Pole. Both bases retain staff there all winter, to do observations and maintain the buildings. Last flight out was at the end of February and the last ships left a few days before ours did. The next flight is in September. Now that is a proper lockdown!
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