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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Loo fighters Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Jan 2019 at 12:28
Inconsistent selection has blighted our season so far. We have the players, just not always available at the same time. De LA soul look the whipping boys of the league, although I believe the first encounter was robust to say the least. At home tho, we should see a big 5 pointer.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Loo fighters Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jan 2019 at 09:13
Eight boys playing 1st team today have come through M&J's...brilliant.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sten Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 14:02
I could watch Penrith play all day to be fair - such a positive attitude to the game, good stuff lads.

Loo showed what they had, but at times played like complete strangers. So many solo drives forward, isolated and turned over. Backs kicking through which played right into Pen's hands - they just hoovered the ball up and went straight back on the attack. We had success when we attacked as a unit, strong direct running, breakdown, recycle and go again. Just didn't do it enough, but fair play to Penrith who deserved the win

Great to see L.Jenkins back (both Jenks on at once is a proud moment I'm sure)

Anyone know where the following players have gone:

Launders
Rylance (Doesn't travel?)
Kyle-Clay (was selected so I assume ill?)
Byatt (Seem to recall him limping off pre-christmas?)
Critchley (think he got injured vs De La)
Sedgewick (was injured but must be few months now)
Dwyer

Think that's everyone haha

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MikeGC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jan 2019 at 05:03
Spot on Sten - don’t aimlessly kick the ball to Penrith's backs (in fact try not to kick it to them at all !!)

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That's our game plan Rhubarbed now Mike!!!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ricky Bobby Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jan 2019 at 12:01
Not sure exactly on whereabouts of all the players but I have heard that Launders, Byatt and Dwyer will not be returning along with Alwyn. Very limited strength in depth at the club, a couple of injuries and they could be really struggling.
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Originally posted by Ricky Bobby Ricky Bobby wrote:

Not sure exactly on whereabouts of all the players but I have heard that Launders, Byatt and Dwyer will not be returning along with Alwyn. Very limited strength in depth at the club, a couple of injuries and they could be really struggling.
 

I hope this isn't true … if it is, what is going on ?
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I believe it to be true
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If Waterloo's team does consist of more than a handful of players who have come through the M & J's then good on them I say!!

Isn't that the whole purpose of running M & J's ?  

To provide its players for the future.

Otherwise, why bother?

Of course, you don't win anything with 'kids' but clubs do need to resist the rush for instant success and accept that, for a while at least, they may not be playing at the level think they should be.

But again, so what?

Why not simply build those strong foundations and resist any plan or clammer for instant gratification from those who will be long gone when the 'ambition' or interest dries up.

Let league position - rather than short-term 'ambition' - dictate the level of rugby a team plays at.

In the end, its the only way.


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Originally posted by Darth Vadar Darth Vadar wrote:

If Waterloo's team does consist of more than a handful of players who have come through the M & J's then good on them I say!!

Isn't that the whole purpose of running M & J's ?  

To provide its players for the future.

Otherwise, why bother?

Of course, you don't win anything with 'kids' but clubs do need to resist the rush for instant success and accept that, for a while at least, they may not be playing at the level think they should be.

But again, so what?

Why not simply build those strong foundations and resist any plan or clammer for instant gratification from those who will be long gone when the 'ambition' or interest dries up.

Let league position - rather than short-term 'ambition' - dictate the level of rugby a team plays at.

In the end, its the only way.




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DV - any form of ambition left the club years ago. The ship is continuing to sink. Sad, but true. Hey, they have had a great season being able to field a team and fulfil their fixtures.....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sten Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jan 2019 at 17:28
Ambition comes in many forms, could endeavouring to maintain a club with men's, womens and kids teams not be considered an ambition?
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Thats hugely ambitious Sten! I guess from a club that has, and continues to, experience an exodus of good players, it is.....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Thatbloke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jan 2019 at 18:01
Every club needs to demonstrate ambition to its members and players whatever form that ambition may take
If that happens to be climbing up the leagues at whatever cost what right do other clubs have to complain?
However, the question I would ask is where does it all end? We can't all make it to the Premiership can we? At some point most will have to say "this is our level and where we are happy"
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jan 2019 at 18:14
But perhaps having the 8th best women's team in the country  and  three reasonable mens XVs plus great teams for boys and girls is enough for a club.

Obviously not for some posters - but if they want to make a change, peraps they should stand for the club committee.




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Agree entirely Thatbloke and maybe Waterloo's ambition is to retain status in NW1 - or, at least, it should be now!!

Sadly, for Waterloo, there has been a lack of ambition at the club for a number of years resulting in them sinking through the leagues. The membership and management appear to be satisfied at being able to field a 15 each week - which, of course, is fine......but very sad that a once big club is disappearing into the abyss! 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sten Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jan 2019 at 19:53
Originally posted by RumbleintheBlundell RumbleintheBlundell wrote:

Agree entirely Thatbloke and maybe Waterloo's ambition is to retain status in NW1 - or, at least, it should be now!!

Sadly, for Waterloo, there has been a lack of ambition at the club for a number of years resulting in them sinking through the leagues. The membership and management appear to be satisfied at being able to field a 15 each week - which, of course, is fine......but very sad that a once big club is disappearing into the abyss! 

I actually agree with most of this.....weird feeling haha

Past achievements are all well and good, but the club needs to look after every element that keeps it afloat. The largest member body is the minis, the highest standing senior team is the ladies - I guess that is the club focus going forward, with the men yet to find a sustainable model / level based on our current resources. 

I have largely enjoyed our time in N1W, with most teams providing good viewing and a competitive game. If we survive at this level (which I think we will comfortably in the end providing we can field a consistent XV) then the main concern will be retaining the core of young players that we have. A tough ask I fear.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jan 2019 at 20:06
I suppose the down side of having so many clubs close together is that it i easy for abitious players to switch clubs.

The plus side is very littel travel - apart from the trips to Cmbria, whih I understand require months of planning, teams of sherpas, innocuations and visas.
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It’s not just Waterloo as the whole of rugby in the North West is in dire straits
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