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    Posted: 24 Feb 2021 at 07:27
Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by marigold marigold wrote:

Great news rugby returning from March 29th. Hopefully clubs will be able to extend the season for those players who want to continue through until the end of May. Pre lockdown many clubs had adapted to their own version of ready4rugby and playing this is much improved on playing nothing. Unsure if after so long not training we should be looking at full contact , especially at a time when the pitches are getting very hard, but imagine there will be some appetite for that IF allowed by DCMS.


RFU cancelled the season for level 3 and below.

I suppose, some teams might organise local friendlies, but personally I would think most will wait for next season.

I saw some NL clubs in Yorkshire have sketched out a mini-tournament during the spring which I would hope might now be able to proceed as planned, and imagine other clubs might do the same. To me it feels important to get clubs/players/supporters etc 'back in the swing' if possible rather than just write off six more months and possibly exacerbate any drop-off in participation that's resulted from last 11.5 months...
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Originally posted by marigold marigold wrote:

Great news rugby returning from March 29th. Hopefully clubs will be able to extend the season for those players who want to continue through until the end of May. Pre lockdown many clubs had adapted to their own version of ready4rugby and playing this is much improved on playing nothing. Unsure if after so long not training we should be looking at full contact , especially at a time when the pitches are getting very hard, but imagine there will be some appetite for that IF allowed by DCMS.


RFU cancelled the season for level 3 and below.

I suppose, some teams might organise local friendlies, but personally I would think most will wait for next season.
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Great news rugby returning from March 29th. Hopefully clubs will be able to extend the season for those players who want to continue through until the end of May. Pre lockdown many clubs had adapted to their own version of ready4rugby and playing this is much improved on playing nothing. Unsure if after so long not training we should be looking at full contact , especially at a time when the pitches are getting very hard, but imagine there will be some appetite for that IF allowed by DCMS.
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Clearly the BBC just forgot to mention rugby.....
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Originally posted by PiffPaff PiffPaff wrote:

Interesting as I'm sure I've read the RFU have said that they've had assurances (from DCMS) that Rugby will return a. when its safe to do so and b. with other grassroot sports, so as to prevent an exodus from one sport to the other.


The talk over the weekend was outdoor team sports could re-start from March 29th.

Presumably, the key is whether the Championship is regarded as 'elite' or not?
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Interesting as I'm sure I've read the RFU have said that they've had assurances (from DCMS) that Rugby will return a. when its safe to do so and b. with other grassroot sports, so as to prevent an exodus from one sport to the other.
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Outdoor sport to return:-)


No mention of rugby :-(
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Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Talking of relegation, note no mention of the 'r-word' in this Leicester Mercury poll on which team will finish bottom of the 20/21 Prem:

But note how the pessimistic locals (probably including several of my neighbours) are voting. They really are down on the club around here just now.
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Talking of relegation, note no mention of the 'r-word' in this Leicester Mercury poll on which team will finish bottom of the 20/21 Prem:
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Originally posted by kempstonblue kempstonblue wrote:

Can see the two pool Championship come in faster than planned, still the 22 league matches (as current).
Just a 14+8 format.
But, would seem weird if Division 1 remains a full National league. So another pool league 14+8;format?




Or 4/5 northern teams in one conference and 11/12 southern teams in the other
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Can see the two pool Championship come in faster than planned, still the 22 league matches (as current).
Just a 14+8 format.
But, would seem weird if Division 1 remains a full National league. So another pool league 14+8;format?
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With no National 1 season there can be no promotion or relegation. But I see no reason not to have promotion and relegation between Premiership and Championship. However, promotion to the Premiership without relegation from it would leave the Championship short of teams. Which might mean the reorg, currently postponed until 22/23 season might have to happen for the 21/22 season and include the Championship.


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Cannot see there being any relegation from Championship if season does happen. National One already 16 clubs/30 league matches-madness to increase to 32 matches and an odd number of clubs in league. Promotion will have to be possible to solve the Saracens 'problem'.
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Originally posted by oneagainstthehead oneagainstthehead wrote:

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Agree TB. Also small point that some seem to have missed. If, and its a big if the Championship does restart and with small crowds allowed how can you run a league with Promotion but no relegation? Does that create an issue?
Can’t see any issue here - there is no National 1 being played this year so there will be no one to promote.

Which means  principles of promotion/relegation within the RFU Leagues no longer applies as a "constant" and therefore makes the possibility of ringfencing easier to apply.


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Originally posted by PiffPaff PiffPaff wrote:

Agree TB. Also small point that some seem to have missed. If, and its a big if the Championship does restart and with small crowds allowed how can you run a league with Promotion but no relegation? Does that create an issue?

Not really. It would just simply work as the bottom league of the county leagues work. Top team goes up, rest of the league stays as it is barring the bottom team of the higher league dropping down.
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Originally posted by PiffPaff PiffPaff wrote:

Agree TB. Also small point that some seem to have missed. If, and its a big if the Championship does restart and with small crowds allowed how can you run a league with Promotion but no relegation? Does that create an issue?

are you talking about relegation from Prem to Champ?

and/or about relegation from Champ to Nat1?
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Originally posted by PiffPaff PiffPaff wrote:

Agree TB. Also small point that some seem to have missed. If, and its a big if the Championship does restart and with small crowds allowed how can you run a league with Promotion but no relegation? Does that create an issue?
Can’t see any issue here - there is no National 1 being played this year so there will be no one to promote.
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Agree TB. Also small point that some seem to have missed. If, and its a big if the Championship does restart and with small crowds allowed how can you run a league with Promotion but no relegation? Does that create an issue?
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Hopefully by September the vaccine will be seen to be having a positive effect. 
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OK - let me throw this in - depends on the level we're talking about obviously but will players expect to be paid to play this "hybrid" version, whatever that may be?
I doubt many clubs will have the resources to make those payments and more so why would they want to do that for a meaningless chuck-about. Call me diehard if you like but I've seen or heard nothing that changes my original stance that we come back physically and financially fit next September. 


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