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    Posted: 24 Jul 2020 at 12:57
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Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

I think I am on record as saying that travel for all team should be the first thing that the RFU funds and only after that is covbered should they give any money based on which league tyou are playing in. I am not sure why redruth get £30k, Pirates get £600k and Bristol get £2m.

Would Pirates be any better than Redruth without central funds, indeed would Bristol?

If the RFU is meant to represent all clubs, that includes Douglas, Jersey and Sandown and Shanklin.
To be fair Hampshire RFU do negotiate a discount on the isle of Wight ferry.


I think Bristol would be considering the owners millions
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 17:47
I think I am on record as saying that travel for all team should be the first thing that the RFU funds and only after that is covbered should they give any money based on which league tyou are playing in. I am not sure why redruth get £30k, Pirates get £600k and Bristol get £2m.

Would Pirates be any better than Redruth without central funds, indeed would Bristol?

If the RFU is meant to represent all clubs, that includes Douglas, Jersey and Sandown and Shanklin.
To be fair Hampshire RFU do negotiate a discount on the isle of Wight ferry.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Richard Lowther Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 14:27
Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Richard Lowther Richard Lowther wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by Camp Freddie Camp Freddie wrote:

Going off what Monkey Boy says, (where did you get the figures by the way) and the 2019 RFU report

Stadium, Commercial, Admin and Pro rugby = 59%
Rugby Development = 41%

This will change to

Stadium, Commercial, Admin and Pro rugby = 71%
Rugby Development = 29%

That shows an increase in the interests to the grassroots game, not !!




Blame those who signed the agreement with PRL which requires the RFU to keep shelling out funds even if they aren’t earning it. 


Not true, the first four year of the deal gave, but the next four years are based on an income split. If the RFU do well, the PRL get more, but if things go belly up the PRL clubs share the agony. 


So as the RFU are making a huge loss this year they won't be paying the Premiership anything?

Because if they are then it cannot be fair

No the PRL will still get their piece of flesh. Except it won't be quality beef, more chicken drumsticks. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Raider999 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 13:36
Originally posted by Richard Lowther Richard Lowther wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by Camp Freddie Camp Freddie wrote:

Going off what Monkey Boy says, (where did you get the figures by the way) and the 2019 RFU report

Stadium, Commercial, Admin and Pro rugby = 59%
Rugby Development = 41%

This will change to

Stadium, Commercial, Admin and Pro rugby = 71%
Rugby Development = 29%

That shows an increase in the interests to the grassroots game, not !!




Blame those who signed the agreement with PRL which requires the RFU to keep shelling out funds even if they aren’t earning it. 


Not true, the first four year of the deal gave, but the next four years are based on an income split. If the RFU do well, the PRL get more, but if things go belly up the PRL clubs share the agony. 


So as the RFU are making a huge loss this year they won't be paying the Premiership anything?

Because if they are then it cannot be fair
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Richard Lowther Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 12:37
Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by Camp Freddie Camp Freddie wrote:

Going off what Monkey Boy says, (where did you get the figures by the way) and the 2019 RFU report

Stadium, Commercial, Admin and Pro rugby = 59%
Rugby Development = 41%

This will change to

Stadium, Commercial, Admin and Pro rugby = 71%
Rugby Development = 29%

That shows an increase in the interests to the grassroots game, not !!


Blame those who signed the agreement with PRL which requires the RFU to keep shelling out funds even if they aren’t earning it. 

Not true, the first four year of the deal gave, but the next four years are based on an income split. If the RFU do well, the PRL get more, but if things go belly up the PRL clubs share the agony. 
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I have felt that way for several years RT. 
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The loss of travelling expenses is a killer for clubs away from the centre of the country.  
In NCA regards this means Devon & Cornwall teams in Nat1. and Nat.2 are going to be slaughtered, travel funding loses of around £16K.

But it's OK clubs in London who only have the occasional long trip won't have much of a problem.
Where are the decisions made?  Oh London!

The RFU are clearly trying to kill of the clubs on the edges of the country and keep the NCA to a cosy little club around London.


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Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by Camp Freddie Camp Freddie wrote:

Going off what Monkey Boy says, (where did you get the figures by the way) and the 2019 RFU report

Stadium, Commercial, Admin and Pro rugby = 59%
Rugby Development = 41%

This will change to

Stadium, Commercial, Admin and Pro rugby = 71%
Rugby Development = 29%

That shows an increase in the interests to the grassroots game, not !!




Blame those who signed the agreement with PRL which requires the RFU to keep shelling out funds even if they aren’t earning it. 


In hindsight, it would have been better to have signed a deal giving a %age of income to PRL - but then hindsight is a powerful thing.

As it stood I am sure RFU didn't do this as they saw their income forever spiralling upwards as the cost of Tickets, Hospitality, food and drink could be raised each year.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Halliford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jul 2020 at 19:37
Originally posted by Camp Freddie Camp Freddie wrote:

Going off what Monkey Boy says, (where did you get the figures by the way) and the 2019 RFU report

Stadium, Commercial, Admin and Pro rugby = 59%
Rugby Development = 41%

This will change to

Stadium, Commercial, Admin and Pro rugby = 71%
Rugby Development = 29%

That shows an increase in the interests to the grassroots game, not !!


Blame those who signed the agreement with PRL which requires the RFU to keep shelling out funds even if they aren’t earning it. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote office dweller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jul 2020 at 12:56
Lets get real !
The loss of travelling expenses, increase in ref fees, no international match tickets to sell, and delayed start to any rugby, is not going to be much helped by a grand or two from the RFU via a loan or grant.
Clubs at National level from Level 4 downwards are going to struggle to survive unless they become the local pub and get some footfall in. Fulfilling fixtures that necessitate a bus journey and at least a 1k trip are just not on.
It will take at least 18 months from now for any real income to be generated and the days of information gathering by the RFU are numbered and thus their staff have and will have to go.
 
Not pretty but this is the real world where there aren't wealthy benefactors and sponsors under pressure to survive themselves and not give money away to clubs for dubious sponsorship benefits
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Monkey Boy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jul 2020 at 00:28
Imagine if the Exec was cut.
Imagine if Council was really stripped back.

Just saying....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camp Freddie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jul 2020 at 13:22
Going off what Monkey Boy says, (where did you get the figures by the way) and the 2019 RFU report

Stadium, Commercial, Admin and Pro rugby = 59%
Rugby Development = 41%

This will change to

Stadium, Commercial, Admin and Pro rugby = 71%
Rugby Development = 29%

That shows an increase in the interests to the grassroots game, not !!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camp Freddie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jul 2020 at 12:18
So who will run all the training courses etc if there are no RFU staff on the ground. ?

As well as that are they expecting all this work to be picked up by already overloaded volunteers ?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JonDee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jul 2020 at 11:16
Originally posted by Cannon Cannon wrote:

Originally posted by Monkey Boy Monkey Boy wrote:

Out of the 141 jobs currently to go, 104 are from Rugby Development (community game!!) 
But "honestly, we really do" care about the Community Game - sadly as the revenue does not come from us we are a cost and not a benefit!!


What a surprise the next statement will be that as they hit all their targets (which only they know about ) the board are awarded a large bonus.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PiffPaff Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jul 2020 at 10:11
The problem as seen by the RFU is simple, Top 1% bring in the cash, other 99% get the benefit. When its actually top 1% bring in the cash, usually provided by the other 99% going to TW2, watching the Prem etc. Erode your base, expect some subsidence.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cannon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jul 2020 at 09:45
Originally posted by Monkey Boy Monkey Boy wrote:

Out of the 141 jobs currently to go, 104 are from Rugby Development (community game!!) 
But "honestly, we really do" care about the Community Game - sadly as the revenue does not come from us we are a cost and not a benefit!!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Monkey Boy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jul 2020 at 23:46
Out of the 141 jobs currently to go, 104 are from Rugby Development (community game!!) 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pristine Shorts Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jul 2020 at 18:18
Sorry, must have missed that. Or something similar.
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Pristineshorts...

What Piffpadff said.
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