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    Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 19:41
frustrating game at Worthing - they seemed on top at 19-5 late in first half, but conceded two soft tries to be trailing at half-time, and never really looked like winning from thereon in. 
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Taunton's match at Canterbury next weekend is now huge. Titans are the form side and an away win would put them in the driving seat for the long run in. Suspect Henley will probably fall away from the race now. 

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Originally posted by Jester10 Jester10 wrote:

After the results today Rams are mathematically safe from relegation............. Smile


After yesterday's matches the current bottom 3 look doomed as Old Redcliffians have opened up a 15 point gap.

With only 12 games to go it would take a big turnaround for anyone to get out of the relegation zone.

Rams are confirming my pre-season prediction to top the table.

The fight for the play-off place is wide open after yesterday's results - I wouldn't like to pick any one of the 4 teams at present.

It is also touch and go whether North or South will host the play-off match.
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After the results today Rams are mathematically safe from relegation............. Smile
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Three points to make.......

1.  Why do posters not give their Club, sex, Age, location etc.,  ??????AngryAngryAngry     what do we have to hide ?

2.  Hawks do have another tough game coming up tomorrow....and a key one IMO.  This is their chance to put TJ's out of the promotion game ......though that is PROBABLY already a foregone conclusion, unless they recruit.....which they could Tongue   The promotion battle remains interesting to neutral observers.....TJ's STILL do not seem to have adapted their style enough to score the tries they need to get promotion. 
That said......most games at the Slade seem tight.....lowish scoring and are decided 4-1 by Robinson's boot.....???  I will probably go with that.....Hawks better in the forwards......TJ's better in the backs but they don't turn that into tries for some reason ?  Confused

 Titans ....as last season.....are scoring lots of points through both backs and forwards.....arguably the only team in the league with this diversity.   They are continual bridesmaids and if you ask me ( which if you had any sense you would not).....I would say that they need a defence coach.....shipping too many points again this year and it is costing them wins.  I reckon they will finally sort it out next year and go up....about time really Big smile

I confess to not having seen the City Side yet this year......an outstanding backs side from last year maturing further......lots of good backs and IMO, the best full back in the league in Aiden Moss.   What seems to be the difference is the pack.....I don't yet know how or where that has improved, but it clearly has.  Well done to them Big smile   Excellent half backs too. 

3.  We just MIGHT have a tougher league next year.   Maybe a strengthened Bournemouth and Wimbledon coming back ?  Also and more significantly,  Bishops Stortford look to be coming down and it is n't impossible that they might be joined by Esher, Cambridge  or Cinderford.....that woud throw the cat amongst the promotion pigeons Wink 

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Originally posted by The Hawks The Hawks wrote:

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I’ve caught up now thank you, looked a great occasion and advert for N2 rugby.

FWIW i thought Rams deserved the win


If the ref gave the knock on, IT could have been a different outcome, all done now, looking for a Hawks win this Saturday agains TJ’s, fingers crossed!


Interesting to see how Hawks react at TJs, will be another tough one, albeit TJs be looking to bounce back themselves after a shock defeat at the weekend. Hawks having been put to the sword at home either side of Xmas by the top 2 won’t want to lose to another top 4 rival. Should be a good one
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Originally posted by PM009 PM009 wrote:

I’ve caught up now thank you, looked a great occasion and advert for N2 rugby.

FWIW i thought Rams deserved the win


If the ref gave the knock on, IT could have been a different outcome, all done now, looking for a Hawks win this Saturday agains TJ’s, fingers crossed!
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I’ve caught up now thank you, looked a great occasion and advert for N2 rugby.

FWIW i thought Rams deserved the win
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Ah right, if you want to see the final try in all it's glory it's on the Rams FB page. Probably about 10 to 15 phases of play by the forwards before the 9 threw it out to the backs.
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No point, I was interested in the incident so tried to watch it back, the video submitted to the RFU would be by the home side, their cameraman is day dreaming at the vital moment and misses the final try
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jester10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jan 2019 at 07:26
Originally posted by PM009 PM009 wrote:

Sounds a great game, shame the cameraman wasn’t keeping up with play during the crucial moment, probably to into the match

 
The film I've seen, I think from the Rams cameraman and widely available on social media, seems to have the play well covered? I haven't seen anything from the Henley cameraman. Not sure what point you're trying to make PM009?
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Sounds a great game, shame the cameraman wasn’t keeping up with play during the crucial moment, probably to into the match

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This is going to be my last statement on this. Our player was tackled by a Rans player who knocked it forward in the tackle, which was picked up and scored in the corner. Let’s move on now and look forward to next weeks game at TJ’s.[/QUOTE]

Nick, I reviewed the match at 02.00 this morning (no, I don't have a life!), Nick Wood the referee, who had a very good game I thought, ruled that the RAMS player knocked the the Hawks players arms backwards in the tackle, the pictures appear to confirm that, and on that basis, referee's who are good, DO NOT make marginal calls .... Hawks fans will think it's a knock on, RAMS fans will think arms knocked back in the tackle, which just looking at it again, it does seem more probable ...

Henley played fantastically well, particularly in the lineout and pushed us to the limit, personally, a draw was probably a fair result but those are so hard to get in rugby, maybe, just maybe our superior fitness told in those last 10 minutes ...

Rugby was the ultimate winner, with a massive crowd treated to a top quality game of Level 4 rugby ...

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Thank you very much for your comments, it’s nice having the joys of watching the video, which I don’t have access to, but again on the split decision the ref had, to us it looked like a knock on by your player, joys of level 4 with no TMO!
I echo your comments, it was a fantastic game of rugby, Henley threw the kitchen sink at you, especially our backs, who made numerous breaks through your defence, but some excellent tackles when the line was inches away, that’s why you are top of the league!, you dominated the scrum, which surprised me and like you say we dominated the line out. Nice to see the crowd was just under 1200, according to our Facebook page, which gave a real cup atmosphere.

Good luck for the rest of the season.

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Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by The Hawks The Hawks wrote:

Originally posted by Jester10 Jester10 wrote:

There were three sides that Rams had never beaten away at the start of the season. Taunton, Redruth and Henley. 


Congratulations Rams on your achievement. We were 12-7 up with 4 mins to go when we ran out of our 22 towards the 10 yard line when you tackled our player, you knocked it on, we were all waiting for the ref to blow up for a scrum and he didn’t and you scored! I feel we could have won that match and you used your get out of jail card! You had us in the scrum, but our backs played well and our defence, very good atmosphere today like a good old cup game! Good luck in Nat 1 next year, I feel Cantabury will get the 2nd spot, for us we gave a goof platform to build on next season.

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I take it Henley have never benefitted from a missed knock-on judging by your protestations?

Protestations? Reads like someone explaining what they saw and felt whilst congratulating their opponents.
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Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

I see Stapley was back, albeit on the bench, was this a factor - he's a very good player at this level?

Watched an 'A' league game just before Christmas, which Nick Wood refereed. He had a good match, despite my team losing, very hot on the little pop passes being forward (which are usually missed). Also, being an ex prop he should have more idea than most about the dark arts of the scrum


Robbie is no where near full fitness to play 80 minutes, we decided he would be better OFF the bench than starting, in case we needed a bit of impetus, we are VERY MUCH A TEAM effort but I would be lying if I said that he doesn't add something to our already very good forwards unit .... because of his fantastic strength, he attracts defenders when he has the ball, thereby creating space for his team mates ...

His smile after the game though was the biggest I've seen from him this season and I told him that!

Nick Wood is a VERY GOOD referee at THIS LEVEL and we were NOT UNHAPPY to see the RFU had appointed him to the game ....
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I see Stapley was back, albeit on the bench, was this a factor - he's a very good player at this level?

Watched an 'A' league game just before Christmas, which Nick Wood refereed. He had a good match, despite my team losing, very hot on the little pop passes being forward (which are usually missed). Also, being an ex prop he should have more idea than most about the dark arts of the scrum

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This is going to be my last statement on this. Our player was tackled by a Rans player who knocked it forward in the tackle, which was picked up and scored in the corner. Let’s move on now and look forward to next weeks game at TJ’s.[/QUOTE]

Nick, I reviewed the match at 02.00 this morning (no, I don't have a life!), Nick Wood the referee, who had a very good game I thought, ruled that the RAMS player knocked the the Hawks players arms backwards in the tackle, the pictures appear to confirm that, and on that basis, referee's who are good, DO NOT make marginal calls .... Hawks fans will think it's a knock on, RAMS fans will think arms knocked back in the tackle, which just looking at it again, it does seem more probable ...

Henley played fantastically well, particularly in the lineout and pushed us to the limit, personally, a draw was probably a fair result but those are so hard to get in rugby, maybe, just maybe our superior fitness told in those last 10 minutes ...

Rugby was the ultimate winner, with a massive crowd treated to a top quality game of Level 4 rugby ...

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Darth, it beats me why Barnes are so consistently inconsistent! The truth is on the pitch it is down to the players...in the recent run of five losses, preceeding today’s excellent bloody minded win, we certainly felt we could have won against the Reds, the Bees and even Henley last week, whilst performing well below par against the City side and Clifton. We need to significantly reduce our error count for starters...if we can do that then when we get possession we can hurt teams, as we did OA’s today with only 30/40% possession. We now have Bury at home next week and a trip to Guernsey to follow so who knows what will happen, at least if we don’t know what Barnes are going to do from week to week then the rest of you have no chance of predicting it either, ahhh the beauty of supporting your team with blind faith, I love it!
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Sheesh......I think I might give up this prediction game !  I am rubbish Tongue

As succinctly as I can....

Well done Hawks.....great try.
TJ's managed a TBP.....yay  !!! but concede 6 tries to the Wild Geese while they were at it and lost Ouch  What happened there then ? Confused
Raiders managed their first ever win at the Recreation Ground, where the Choppers are starting to look much less impregnable in recent times.....just my opinion, but they just don't have the pack any more....though a few decent backs.  Tongue
Barnes are back then ?  I think someone at the club needs to explain to us clueless posters what is going on ?  Can we now expect them to win their next 4/5 games ?  An outstanding and wholly unexpected win though Clap   Big smile
I had thought that the Reds forwards might upset the City Side at Merton Lane......but the title challengers forwards were clearly up for the battle and (I suspect) that their excellent back line were responsible for this surprisingly big win.  
I thought Clifton might cause Titans some big problems in an high scoring encounter.....that they appeared to do, but lost by 7 tries to 6.........fantastic game for the neutral.  
Guernsey fell by the wayside in the 'must win' game against BSE, but B & S did not......beating Dings.

But can any of the bottom 3 pull clear ?  Seems unlikely to me.  

Rams stretching away now as expected.
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Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by The Hawks The Hawks wrote:

Originally posted by Jester10 Jester10 wrote:

There were three sides that Rams had never beaten away at the start of the season. Taunton, Redruth and Henley. 


Congratulations Rams on your achievement. We were 12-7 up with 4 mins to go when we ran out of our 22 towards the 10 yard line when you tackled our player, you knocked it on, we were all waiting for the ref to blow up for a scrum and he didn’t and you scored! I feel we could have won that match and you used your get out of jail card! You had us in the scrum, but our backs played well and our defence, very good atmosphere today like a good old cup game! Good luck in Nat 1 next year, I feel Cantabury will get the 2nd spot, for us we gave a goof platform to build on next season.

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I take it Henley have never benefitted from a missed knock-on judging by your protestations?


This is going to be my last statement on this. Our player was tackled by a Rans player who knocked it forward in the tackle, which was picked up and scored in the corner. Let’s move on now and look forward to next weeks game at TJ’s.
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