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castleparknight ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Jun 2012 Location: Doncaster Status: Offline Points: 1240 |
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What with all those rich tax exiles on the island you wouldn't be able to find a clutch of benefactors...realising that most folk who live there are not multi-millionaires I guess that would be a big problem, as those who reside there for tax purposes probably have no interest in rugby.
I personally think you are right SPY, it would be difficult for you to sustain it on the island if you were to rely on a minimum gate (circa 6k home supporters) / benefactor. Better to remain in the top 4 of the championship, get to watch decent rugby on a regular basis and not have to fear ending up dropping to the bottom of the leagues and starting again. Sensible approach......but we all like to dream.
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Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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spy28482 ![]() First XV regular ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Jul 2014 Location: Jersey Status: Offline Points: 104 |
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This is all pie in the sky for me chaps.
Even if Jersey did win the league and satisfy the premiership criteria there's no way we would attract anywhere near the numbers that have been bounced around for an island population that could fit inside Twickers!
I'm really happy with where Jersey is in the league and how they're performing. We would need an investor that's willing to lend money in and write it off every year to compete at premiership level. I wouldn't want Jersey to be reliant on that individual in case a London Welsh happened to us! |
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Jeeeeerseeeeeeey!!!
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islander ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 17 Mar 2010 Location: jersey Status: Offline Points: 4218 |
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i'm leaving you to it...
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corporalcarrot ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Location: St Ouen Status: Offline Points: 2980 |
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Imo there is more chance of Jersey moving to Green Island than playing in the premiership. The real contest must surely be between Irish and Ealing. If the blue moon arrived and Jersey won it perhaps they would play in Southampton or Avranches.
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Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD.
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Cricks at 2 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 08 Dec 2015 Location: Bedford Status: Offline Points: 368 |
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Camquin ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Jun 2007 Location: Cambridge Status: Offline Points: 5808 |
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I did wonder if Redruth would travel to Guernsey by boat - direct if slow.
The problem with floating hotel is most cruise ships head to the Caribbean for Winter. So you may need to charter it for the season. For home games you might want it Friday and Saturday evening - pick up supporters at a suitable port, sail Friday night, stay in port at Jersey until Sunday - get home for Sunday lunch. But that is 30 nights occupancy, what would they do the rest of the time. |
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Blood and Sand
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Westcoaster ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 20 Aug 2011 Location: Jersey Status: Offline Points: 1175 |
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Nice idea raider.... so what could we have: a couple of noisy boats full of Wasps and Tigers, a colourful few for Quins, Saracen raiders would have to have dhows or Crusader craft. Northampton could only come for Sunday games with their flotilla of Saints; Worcester Warriors would be in warships, and of course there's be a boat for Sale
![]() Sorry about this - its a quiet afternoon and I'm missing League rugby
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Come on Jersey........
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Raider999 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 18 Jan 2013 Location: Crawley Status: Offline Points: 1995 |
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Suggestion,
Make use of floating Hotels to accommodate visiting hordes? Solves the transportation problem as well - everyone's a winner |
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RAID ON
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Westcoaster ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 20 Aug 2011 Location: Jersey Status: Offline Points: 1175 |
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Others with a sensible view will be along shortly, cue Islander, but the hardest criteria we'd ever have to meet would surely be the bums on seats for travelling supporters. As in not enough seats on planes and ferries - maybe hotel beds too. Say a Prem Club wanted to send 6 or 7000 fans over for a long weekend to see their team beaten by the Reds
![]() And lets not go getting ahead of ourselves. Jersey are nowhere near winning anything yet. The team's playing well but lets see where we are come late February, and then have this chat ! There's the "small matter" of Ealing this afternoon and crucially in the league on 22nd December. Mind you would be something to behold one day: a fleet of chartered A 380s and Dreamliners incoming for a Saturday game here in front of 12,000. Pause to watch flying bacon past the window......
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Come on Jersey........
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Stalwart ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 22 Nov 2011 Location: Penzance Status: Offline Points: 1641 |
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I am first to argue that the ridiculous criteria demanded by the powers that be should be scrapped - then if a club win the league they should be supported to bring their ground up to a certain standard (but more sensible than the current set of rules).
My question was, have Jersey any long term plans to try to meet the criteria, should they win the league? The way they are shaping up they have a very good chance of doing just that! I understand that there are many logistical problems of doing that on an island.
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Robb ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Jan 2017 Location: Kent Status: Offline Points: 487 |
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The RFU's minimum standards criteria is clearly there to ensure that no upstart clubs get any ideas about daring to come into the top league unless the old boys in the RFU allow them to. 10,000 minimum capacity stadium for example? Like The Avenue was for Irish in the late 90s?
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Westcoaster ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 20 Aug 2011 Location: Jersey Status: Offline Points: 1175 |
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"Do we assume from this that Jersey have no ambition to be a Premiership club?"
Stalwart, of course not, I was commenting on player contracts, nothing else. I'm sure Jersey would love to be a Premiership Club but would need to meet a long list of criteria, and some odd ones caused by the English Channel
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Come on Jersey........
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The Blues ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Status: Offline Points: 3509 |
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They often do pay compensation, however most Championship clubs have 1 or 2 year contracts, so the players often get signed by Premiership clubs once they have expired resulting in no transfer fee.
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OldNick ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 20 May 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Online Points: 2628 |
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It depends on the player’s contract. Certainly some do.
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Brizzer ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Mar 2012 Location: Jersey Status: Offline Points: 2471 |
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Prem clubs don’t pay compensation do they? It’s a meat factory. If you don’t come then they will move onto the next one who will.
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OldNick ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 20 May 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Online Points: 2628 |
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Or to ensure that CP get compensation from the Premiership club for an extra year.
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Stalwart ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 22 Nov 2011 Location: Penzance Status: Offline Points: 1641 |
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Do we assume from this that Jersey have no ambition to be a Premiership club? The reasoning behind 3 year contracts at Pirates (once the interminable wait for the new stadium is over) is, presumably, to convince them that they could become a top flight player by staying put.
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Westcoaster ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 20 Aug 2011 Location: Jersey Status: Offline Points: 1175 |
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Don't think that a 3 year contract would work i.e. it wouldn't protect a Championship Club from those above with large cheque books. Look at James Voss, recently of Jersey. He'd not long signed up for another season here when Tigers came knocking on the door, made him an offer he couldn't refuse and he was gone in a week. If a Prem Club wants someone, they will pay to break a contract. We may not like it but we can hardly stand in the way of a player who has ambitions to go to the top. Le Booj at Bedford now Wasps is another example.
I used to be concerned like you Spy 62242 (can't remember your numbers ! )that we were always losing our best players, but this is professional rugby. Anyone who is good enough to be in the Premiership or a top French club etc is going to be spotted and approached. Better IMO to accept this and enjoy the fact that Jersey has a growing reputation as an excellent feeder club if you're good enough, and its not a bad place to spend a season or two learning your trade
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Come on Jersey........
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Brizzer ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Mar 2012 Location: Jersey Status: Offline Points: 2471 |
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Wow! That’s the elephant kicked out of the room. Spot on Islander and I really wish CP luck in their exciting new adventure. Perhaps one day Jersey Reds will be in the same position. |
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KnightsBoy ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Location: Doncaster Status: Offline Points: 1567 |
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The problem with standing in the way of players movin up is the better younger players may choose to play for a club that openly embraces ambition to play at the highest level.
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