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Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by MaidsBoy MaidsBoy wrote:

Barnstaple clear favourites for the play-off place in my opinion. After Drybrook did us a favour last week, we can’t help but feel that we may have blown it now by faltering against Ivybridge, a game we should have won.

Bracknell have signed a couple of new players, including the excellent Mike Macdonald, who was Chinnor 9 last year, so I think that will be a big enough boost to keep them up, which sadly make Cleve favourites for that 3rd relegation spot.

Coming up, I fully expect Newbury to be top 6 next year- they have a young squad, which are getting better and better, definitely ones to watch next season in my opinion.

From Nat 2S, I’d guess we may welcome Wild Geese into our league?

Although I seem to remember the Wild Geese played in the South West a few seasons ago, I believe this was the result of a level transfer.

Not sure if they could be forced to transfer again?

Probably will have to, I think the RFU treat Guernsey as being based at Gatwick despite their Hampshire RFU membership (Why are they Hampshire members anyway?) as they want to keep the travel costs down. Plus we in LSE would love to have our mini-tour back!
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Funny old season was the last one. Newbury got relegated with 64 points in the bag.  <rolls eyes>

20 games in and they've just suffered their first defeat of this season (by 2 points with the very last kick of the game against the 'Marlborough Fijians' - they have some big lumping Polynesians available to them from the local Army regiment... their 1st XV is bereft of local talent that's come through M&J structure whereas the majority of the Newbury boys have been playing for them since they were nippers) 

Looking forward to coming back up. 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote @boatyjames Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Feb 2019 at 12:47
Better Playing Record is defined as highest percentage of maximum points achievable in the first instant so looks like the LSE sides will likely have home advantage.

Re Wimbledon (my team) we have a decent group of players but just have not be playing that well I think. Again there was much change to personnel after relegation last spring as a number of our best went to Nat1 sides (Rosslyn Park, OE's and Esher). I don't think the new group have fully gelled however our performance against Guildford last Saturday was much improved.

As you say if we gain promotion we will need to improve significantly to establish ourselves in Nat2S
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Originally posted by @boatyjames @boatyjames wrote:

Better Playing Record is defined as highest percentage of maximum points achievable in the first instant so looks like the LSE sides will likely have home advantage.

Re Wimbledon (my team) we have a decent group of players but just have not be playing that well I think. Again there was much change to personnel after relegation last spring as a number of our best went to Nat1 sides (Rosslyn Park, OE's and Esher). I don't think the new group have fully gelled however our performance against Guildford last Saturday was much improved.

As you say if we gain promotion we will need to improve significantly to establish ourselves in Nat2S
I was pretty sure it was Better Playing Record, defined as highest percentage of maximum points achievable in the first instant as you say (in this case as there are the same number of games in both divisions then league points won is the same thing).
At the moment 2nd and 3rd in the L&SE div are both on 76 pts and 2nd in the SW div is on 74 pts so with 6 games left it is still all to play for although one of the L&SE teams must be slight favs for a home play off.


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Originally posted by @boatyjames @boatyjames wrote:

Better Playing Record is defined as highest percentage of maximum points achievable in the first instant so looks like the LSE sides will likely have home advantage.

Re Wimbledon (my team) we have a decent group of players but just have not be playing that well I think. Again there was much change to personnel after relegation last spring as a number of our best went to Nat1 sides (Rosslyn Park, OE's and Esher). I don't think the new group have fully gelled however our performance against Guildford last Saturday was much improved.

As you say if we gain promotion we will need to improve significantly to establish ourselves in Nat2S


Last time Wimbledon were promoted to N2S they had a number of Antipodeans who were not eligible at the higher level. Are they in the same boat this season, or have they put together a squad that qualifies?

For what it is worth, I thought Wimbledon in the 2nd half of last season were a far better side than that of the 1st half - if they had found that form a few weeks earlier they may have stayed up.
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Raider999 we don’t have as big an issue with qualification this time if we were to go up.

Unfortunately we could not hold the squad together that we had in the 2nd half of last season. Ambitious players understandably wanting to play in higher leagues. As you say that team was becoming a fine side.
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Originally posted by MaidsBoy MaidsBoy wrote:



Bracknell have signed a couple of new players, including the excellent Mike Macdonald, who was Chinnor 9 last year


Are you sure it's the same player? Level 3/4 scrum half and you play him on the WING, in a must win game against the team below you in the league?

If it is the same player, with selection process like that, would suggest you're paying a lot of money for a wasted talent .....
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Originally posted by Clive Norling Clive Norling wrote:

Originally posted by MaidsBoy MaidsBoy wrote:



Bracknell have signed a couple of new players, including the excellent Mike Macdonald, who was Chinnor 9 last year


Are you sure it's the same player? Level 3/4 scrum half and you play him on the WING, in a must win game against the team below you in the league?

If it is the same player, with selection process like that, would suggest you're paying a lot of money for a wasted talent .....


Yep, same player. His brother Cam played on the other wing...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cannon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Feb 2019 at 16:34
Originally posted by MaidsBoy MaidsBoy wrote:

Originally posted by Clive Norling Clive Norling wrote:

Originally posted by MaidsBoy MaidsBoy wrote:



Bracknell have signed a couple of new players, including the excellent Mike Macdonald, who was Chinnor 9 last year


Are you sure it's the same player? Level 3/4 scrum half and you play him on the WING, in a must win game against the team below you in the league?

If it is the same player, with selection process like that, would suggest you're paying a lot of money for a wasted talent .....


Yep, same player. His brother Cam played on the other wing...
He played on the wing and full back at Chobham. Swift as f.....
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Originally posted by Clive Norling Clive Norling wrote:

Originally posted by MaidsBoy MaidsBoy wrote:



Bracknell have signed a couple of new players, including the excellent Mike Macdonald, who was Chinnor 9 last year


Are you sure it's the same player? Level 3/4 scrum half and you play him on the WING, in a must win game against the team below you in the league?

If it is the same player, with selection process like that, would suggest you're paying a lot of money for a wasted talent .....

Maybe that's why Bracknell are in the bottom 3? 
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Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:


Probably will have to, I think the RFU treat Guernsey as being based at Gatwick despite their Hampshire RFU membership (Why are they Hampshire members anyway?) as they want to keep the travel costs down. Plus we in LSE would love to have our mini-tour back!

Hampshire RFU clubs are in London & SE Division, not SW.
Jersey and Guernsey both affiliated to Hampshire for many years. Hants Refs still supplied for the 2nd team matches.
I have many happy memories of reffing in both islands when they were down at L6 and below - and extended weekends and loss of memory.
We used Southampton flights, then Gatwick came in for London 1 and National 3 SE (as they were) due to changes in flight timetables, and have stayed that way now Guernsey are in National2.
If relegated Guernsey or LI WG would have their 'natural home' in London and SE Premier, before any level transfer process starts ! As was posted above LI WG were level transferred, rather than Bracknell, who have in the past been in both L&SE and SW. Currently in SW and I am there on Saturday week.     
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Originally posted by Dobber Dobber wrote:

Funny old season was the last one. Newbury got relegated with 64 points in the bag.  <rolls eyes>

20 games in and they've just suffered their first defeat of this season (by 2 points with the very last kick of the game against the 'Marlborough Fijians' - they have some big lumping Polynesians available to them from the local Army regiment... their 1st XV is bereft of local talent that's come through M&J structure whereas the majority of the Newbury boys have been playing for them since they were nippers) 

Looking forward to coming back up. 

And looking forward to visiting you guys again next season hopefully.
With only Bracknell, Maids and Bournemouth (likely to go up), the League is very West clubs based so some long M4 trips when not at one of the three above.
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Bracknell is Berkshire so naturally in SW.
LIWG in Sunbury on thames so Surrey so naturally L&SE.
Channel Islands are in hampshire as they have to be somewhere and were placed there in the days of steam ships and trains.

Similarly Hampshire is in L&SE as the trains go to Waterloo - whereas Berkshire is on GWR with trains to Paddington and direct to Bristol.

It all made sense once and nobody has had the will to upend the entire structure.
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With a home game against Barum coming up Maids must now be favourites for the play-off spot although Ivybridge seem to be coming back to form and could yet have a say in it, especially if they beat Barum next week. Either way it now looks almost certain that the runners-up in L&SE will get home advantage.
Who goes down with Old Pats and Nab's is anyone's guess with just a point separating three teams.



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Originally posted by Barum man Barum man wrote:

With a home game against Barum coming up Maids must now be favourites for the play-off spot although Ivybridge seem to be coming back to form and could yet have a say in it, especially if they beat Barum next week. Either way it now looks almost certain that the runners-up in L&SE will get home advantage.
Who goes down with Old Pats and Nab's is anyone's guess with just a point separating three teams.



I think it will be mightily close Barum Man! With away fixtures at Barnstaple, Bracknell and Camborne to come, plus a home fixture versus Bournemouth, I think Ivybridge have the toughest run in, whereas for Maids and Barum, that head to head clash on the 23rd is key. I can’t see how it won’t go down to the final game of the season, where Maids will have a long trip to Brixham, whereas Barnstaple will welcome Weston, who will be comfortably mid-table by then.

A fascinating few weeks coming up which could see bonus points prove vital.
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Originally posted by Cannon Cannon wrote:

Originally posted by MaidsBoy MaidsBoy wrote:

Originally posted by Clive Norling Clive Norling wrote:

Originally posted by MaidsBoy MaidsBoy wrote:



Bracknell have signed a couple of new players, including the excellent Mike Macdonald, who was Chinnor 9 last year


Are you sure it's the same player? Level 3/4 scrum half and you play him on the WING, in a must win game against the team below you in the league?

If it is the same player, with selection process like that, would suggest you're paying a lot of money for a wasted talent .....


Yep, same player. His brother Cam played on the other wing...
He played on the wing and full back at Chobham. Swift as f.....
MacDonald played the second half of last season for Chinnor on the wing
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Whilst not counting our chickens yet (especially as we play 2nd placed Old Cents next week) but if we win that one its almost certain Newbury Blues will return to the SW Prem after being v unlucky to be relegated last season.
Not sure I'd go quite as far as MaidsBoy for a top 6 finish next season but do think will do better than last time. We have a young side with some terrific backs who scored 8 of the 10 tries v Witney last weekend.
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Originally posted by NewburyBlue NewburyBlue wrote:

Whilst not counting our chickens yet (especially as we play 2nd placed Old Cents next week) but if we win that one its almost certain Newbury Blues will return to the SW Prem after being v unlucky to be relegated last season.
Not sure I'd go quite as far as MaidsBoy for a top 6 finish next season but do think will do better than last time. We have a young side with some terrific backs who scored 8 of the 10 tries v Witney last weekend.

For what its worth, I think you'll be fine next season but like you, not top 6. Good luck in SW Premier.

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Originally posted by MaidsBoy MaidsBoy wrote:

Originally posted by Barum man Barum man wrote:

With a home game against Barum coming up Maids must now be favourites for the play-off spot although Ivybridge seem to be coming back to form and could yet have a say in it, especially if they beat Barum next week. Either way it now looks almost certain that the runners-up in L&SE will get home advantage.
Who goes down with Old Pats and Nab's is anyone's guess with just a point separating three teams.



I think it will be mightily close Barum Man! With away fixtures at Barnstaple, Bracknell and Camborne to come, plus a home fixture versus Bournemouth, I think Ivybridge have the toughest run in, whereas for Maids and Barum, that head to head clash on the 23rd is key. I can’t see how it won’t go down to the final game of the season, where Maids will have a long trip to Brixham, whereas Barnstaple will welcome Weston, who will be comfortably mid-table by then.

A fascinating few weeks coming up which could see bonus points prove vital.

One big thing in you favour 'Maids' is that Bournemouth will have almost certainly have won the league by the time you play them (not saying you would not have beaten them anyway!).


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Originally posted by Barum man Barum man wrote:

Originally posted by MaidsBoy MaidsBoy wrote:

Originally posted by Barum man Barum man wrote:

With a home game against Barum coming up Maids must now be favourites for the play-off spot although Ivybridge seem to be coming back to form and could yet have a say in it, especially if they beat Barum next week. Either way it now looks almost certain that the runners-up in L&SE will get home advantage.
Who goes down with Old Pats and Nab's is anyone's guess with just a point separating three teams.



I think it will be mightily close Barum Man! With away fixtures at Barnstaple, Bracknell and Camborne to come, plus a home fixture versus Bournemouth, I think Ivybridge have the toughest run in, whereas for Maids and Barum, that head to head clash on the 23rd is key. I can’t see how it won’t go down to the final game of the season, where Maids will have a long trip to Brixham, whereas Barnstaple will welcome Weston, who will be comfortably mid-table by then.

A fascinating few weeks coming up which could see bonus points prove vital.


One big thing in you favour 'Maids' is that Bournemouth will have almost certainly have won the league by the time you play them (not saying you would not have beaten them anyway!).




Hi Barum Man,

I hope you’re right, but I have a feeling that Bournemouth will be gunning for us, after we dispatched them at our place before Xmas. 5 tough games left, can’t wait!

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