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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote front5 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 May 2020 at 08:30
Although we may not like to admit it rugby is changing and to attract the necessary talent to compete at this level players expect paying.

If we were talking the 3rd tier of soccer the average wage per squad player would be £3k per week. I know were a long way off but the game is developing and its going to become more prevalent in the future.

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Third tier of most sports get absolutely nothing but the enjoyment of playing.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote front5 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 May 2020 at 10:54
Agreed however in most sports there may only be 3 or 4 levels and even at level 1 there is no payments. The same cant be said for rugby union 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 May 2020 at 11:41
Most sports do not have the TV coverage and hence income rugby has.
Though they might have Olympic funding  but usually only for the national squad.

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Funny how both these teams would of wanted an increase rather than a decrease this time last year. You can’t go round trying to buy a team. You have to bring local talent through your 2nds and 3rds because when it comes down to it they’ll be the ones there still playing if the money unfortunately dries up. Grassroots 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Monkey Boy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 May 2020 at 19:25
I think front five might be in for a shock as the knock on effect of everything will see players at all levels getting much less
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The crunch time for many clubs will come when the Government withdraws furloughing it cannot financially keep it up for more than three months. If clubs cannot have large gatherings and cannot open their bars there will be zero income and in all probability physical contact will not commence until Xmas at least. Those clubs will have to cancel all contracts and moth ball their clubs until a vaccine is found . Many clubs will go under only those who are strictly amateur will survive on volunteer labour. Hoping the players will be there when they restart,. This will be the key to the future many players in their last two years of rugby could retire prematurely and others will simply go to play for their local clubs until everything is resolved. Every club with few exceptions relies on Sponsors who fund the club out of the own income created from successful businesses and they will be severely affected in the short term I think that the game will be altered  and may be never to return the structure we had in the past.   

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Originally posted by workerbee workerbee wrote:

The crunch time for many clubs will come when the Government withdraws furloughing it cannot financially keep it up for more than three months. If clubs cannot have large gatherings and cannot open their bars there will be zero income and in all probability physical contact will not commence until Xmas at least. Those clubs will have to cancel all contracts and moth ball their clubs until a vaccine is found . Many clubs will go under only those who are strictly amateur will survive on volunteer labour. Hoping the players will be there when they restart,. This will be the key to the future many players in their last two years of rugby could retire prematurely and others will simply go to play for their local clubs until everything is resolved. Every club with few exceptions relies on Sponsors who fund the club out of the own income created from successful businesses and they will be severely affected in the short term I think that the game will be altered  and may be never to return the structure we had in the past.   


I tend to agree, with major companies down sizing and a lot of small businesses predicted to struggle to survive, I cannot see many sponsors having money to support rugby clubs. Revenue down is going to mean either players salary drops or clubs will just close and that includes some very big clubs in the Premiership.
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Originally posted by tigerburnie tigerburnie wrote:

Originally posted by workerbee workerbee wrote:

The crunch time for many clubs will come when the Government withdraws furloughing it cannot financially keep it up for more than three months. If clubs cannot have large gatherings and cannot open their bars there will be zero income and in all probability physical contact will not commence until Xmas at least. Those clubs will have to cancel all contracts and moth ball their clubs until a vaccine is found . Many clubs will go under only those who are strictly amateur will survive on volunteer labour. Hoping the players will be there when they restart,. This will be the key to the future many players in their last two years of rugby could retire prematurely and others will simply go to play for their local clubs until everything is resolved. Every club with few exceptions relies on Sponsors who fund the club out of the own income created from successful businesses and they will be severely affected in the short term I think that the game will be altered  and may be never to return the structure we had in the past.   


I tend to agree, with major companies down sizing and a lot of small businesses predicted to struggle to survive, I cannot see many sponsors having money to support rugby clubs. Revenue down is going to mean either players salary drops or clubs will just close and that includes some very big clubs in the Premiership.


Outside of the Premiership how many players have contracts for more than 1 season?

And of those I suspect the majority will be in the Championship
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Some in National league One have contracts of more than 1 year. 
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Originally posted by kingsheathlad kingsheathlad wrote:

Some in National league One have contracts of more than 1 year. 


I didn't say none would, I just stated the vast majority would be in the Premiership/Championship
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Originally posted by workerbee workerbee wrote:

The crunch time for many clubs will come when the Government withdraws furloughing it cannot financially keep it up for more than three months. If clubs cannot have large gatherings and cannot open their bars there will be zero income and in all probability physical contact will not commence until Xmas at least. Those clubs will have to cancel all contracts and moth ball their clubs until a vaccine is found . Many clubs will go under only those who are strictly amateur will survive on volunteer labour. Hoping the players will be there when they restart,. This will be the key to the future many players in their last two years of rugby could retire prematurely and others will simply go to play for their local clubs until everything is resolved. Every club with few exceptions relies on Sponsors who fund the club out of the own income created from successful businesses and they will be severely affected in the short term I think that the game will be altered  and may be never to return the structure we had in the past.   

Worker bee furlough could be extended indefinitely.  It all depends how a country wishes to operate it’s fiscal policy. 
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I would have thought that most players would be out of contract now as cut of tends to be 1st May in Nat 1 and restart in July for preseason
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It is not that the government would want to cut furloughing but how much can they continue to pour money into the Economy to keep it going. There will come a point when they will have to accept that certain jobs are not essential to the economy and scale back accordingly. They are not a bottomless pit and in reality all the money they are spending comes from our taxes so if we are not paying taxes then they have no money unless they borrow, so in the long run we will all have to pay from higher taxes or "Austerity" take your choice both will be crippling for everyone. 
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Originally posted by workerbee workerbee wrote:

It is not that the government would want to cut furloughing but how much can they continue to pour money into the Economy to keep it going. There will come a point when they will have to accept that certain jobs are not essential to the economy and scale back accordingly. They are not a bottomless pit and in reality all the money they are spending comes from our taxes so if we are not paying taxes then they have no money unless they borrow, so in the long run we will all have to pay from higher taxes or "Austerity" take your choice both will be crippling for everyone. 

There is a bottomless pit depending on how you operate your financials.  People will still pay tax
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Originally posted by Monkey Boy Monkey Boy wrote:

Originally posted by workerbee workerbee wrote:

It is not that the government would want to cut furloughing but how much can they continue to pour money into the Economy to keep it going. There will come a point when they will have to accept that certain jobs are not essential to the economy and scale back accordingly. They are not a bottomless pit and in reality all the money they are spending comes from our taxes so if we are not paying taxes then they have no money unless they borrow, so in the long run we will all have to pay from higher taxes or "Austerity" take your choice both will be crippling for everyone. 

There is a bottomless pit depending on how you operate your financials.  People will still pay tax

There is a bottomless pit? Excellent. That's the NHS sorted then. And the transport situation. And education. What's next?
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