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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Yesterday at 11:17
Admitedly the allocation was based on last seasons finishing position and the teams may be different next season.

It was also as I understand based on the current regulations for level transfer, which prefer fewest teams moving. This forces a Northern team to go to the South West,rather than a South Eastern Team team moving to be replaced by a northern team. Even if the latter might produce shorter journeys.That rule could be ammended.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Halliford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 hours 19 minutes ago at 13:57
Sorry, Camquin, I disagree. The RFU Council voted to have 3 Leagues at Level 4, not on the boundaries of those Leagues. The latter remains with the NCA. I wrote on another post about 2 years ago my idea of an M1 league, an M5 league and an M62 league. All ideas are still under discussion.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PiffPaff Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 hours 7 minutes ago at 15:09
Halliford, someone is leading you a merry dance then. You cannot present a structure, get the RFU Council to approve the structure and then say but we've not finalised the structure we are still discussing it. You can't do it irrespective if the NCA think they can. 

Of course if you "can" then the whole thing should be thrown out as its clear an agreed structure was not agreed in the 1st place.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Thatbloke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 hours 1 minutes ago at 16:15
Can someone please explain what "powers" or "influence" the NCA has (or doesn't have as the case may be!) At present it's gang of 48 changes every season with promotions and relegations and what's to stop Level 5 clubs setting up its own Regional Premier League Authority and so on down the pyramid? When the make up of the NCA's 48 is set for the following season is it the NCA who draws the lines to say who will play in Nat2(North) & Nat2(South) or is it the RFU? My point being if its the RFU then after a restructure and increase to 3 Leagues at Level 4 why would it suddenly be the NCA who decide which clubs play in which league? 
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Originally posted by Thatbloke Thatbloke wrote:

Can someone please explain what "powers" or "influence" the NCA has (or doesn't have as the case may be!) At present it's gang of 48 changes every season with promotions and relegations and what's to stop Level 5 clubs setting up its own Regional Premier League Authority and so on down the pyramid? When the make up of the NCA's 48 is set for the following season is it the NCA who draws the lines to say who will play in Nat2(North) & Nat2(South) or is it the RFU? My point being if its the RFU then after a restructure and increase to 3 Leagues at Level 4 why would it suddenly be the NCA who decide which clubs play in which league? 
From memory, when I raised this idea for the 48 member clubs a few years ago in an NCA meeting, I was told that the Constitution of the NCA is to abide by the RFU rules and regulations. If that helps explain the situation between the two. I presume that the various administrative bodies from Level 5 down follow the same directive. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Thatbloke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 hours 39 minutes ago at 16:37
Thanks Hopper but doesn't really answer my question. If it's in the NCA  constitution to abide by RFU rules and regs, what exactly is the purpose of its existence and who will draw the geographical lines for the three 14 team Leagues at Level 4 in 22/23 season (assuming restructure goes through) 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 'Hopper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 hours 29 minutes ago at 16:47
Originally posted by Thatbloke Thatbloke wrote:

Thanks Hopper but doesn't really answer my question. If it's in the NCA  constitution to abide by RFU rules and regs, what exactly is the purpose of its existence and who will draw the geographical lines for the three 14 team Leagues at Level 4 in 22/23 season (assuming restructure goes through) 
There's no doubt a few current NCA rep's on this site who could answer your question. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camp Freddie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 hours 51 minutes ago at 17:25
That Bloke "Assuming restructure goes through"

It went through on Friday
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Thatbloke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 hours 16 minutes ago at 18:00
Sorry Camp Freddie - hadn't been keeping up!! So can you answer my other question - Who draws the lines? 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Halliford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 minutes ago at 11:47
The structure has been set by the RFU, 3 Leagues at Level 4. The RFU have NOT said how those Leagues should be structured, that is being discussed within the NCA. The NCA is effectively a CB, it’s Chair is an RFU Council member and is (and was) heavily involved in the competitions discussions. The NCA is very active and engaged, surveys generally get 95% responses. The Survey done by Steve Hill of NCA DoRs around the number of matches got 100% response and with 95% supporting a reduction to 14 teams, that is how the NCA voted. At least half of the NCA Clubs attend the AGM every year.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mark W-J Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 minutes ago at 11:57
Whether it's decided by the RFU or the NCA, it's fairly self-evident that the three leagues would be loosely structured around the South-East, North and West Midlands/ South West.  Obviously clubs in the North and East Midlands are most at risk of being shunted from pillar to post, along with those on the extremities of the aforementioned three regions.  But you can't set hard borders when the make-up of the 42 (?) clubs will be fluid, and unfortunately some clubs will find themselves being subject to level transfers on an almost annual basis.  Chester being in the South West is a fairly extreme case, mind you!

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