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Originally posted by Neasham Neasham wrote:

Originally posted by Camp Freddie Camp Freddie wrote:

Hi Neasham, Sorry but I don't agree that England are the RFU's Club. There are 2000+ clubs in the Union who all have an equal share and say in what should go on. England are the representative team of us, the union.


Of course? but perhaps I didn’t make my point very well. Most communications I get from the RFU are all about England and Eddie and very little about the rest of the game. Hence a survey you assume to be about the whole game is really all about getting England games back on at Twickers (important though that is in revenue terms) and very little else.


Let's think.

Would I sit in a 82000 crowd, any number of whom may have the virus, with the risks involved in the foreseeable future? No

Would I pay £70-140 for the privilege of doing so?   Definitely not

Would I like to watch the game on TV?   Yes
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sidelined Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2020 at 11:57
As much as I love rugby, I'm not sure I want to watch it on TV with no crowd.
A major part of the game is the crowd interaction and the passion generated by the supporters.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Blutarsky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2020 at 15:41
I emailed the RFU to say the survey seemed purely focused on TV audiences and the national team. I stated I thought it should have asked about the community game. 

The response I received was that I probably hadn't been asked about the community game as my first few answers, about how I am involved with rugby, may have suggested I'm not involved in the community game. 

Since I am a current national league player, and selected that option, it is hard to see how much more involved in the community game I could be than running around tackling people on a Saturday afternoon. 

RFU committee members only care about their days out at Twickenham. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mark W-J Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2020 at 15:50
I have to say, I thought the questions gave quite a broad coverage of the game at various levels without too much emphasis on any of them.  Some club, some international, only one about Twickenham itself - but I don't know what algorithm they used to send me down that route compared to others.
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Originally posted by Blutarsky Blutarsky wrote:

I emailed the RFU to say the survey seemed purely focused on TV audiences and the national team. I stated I thought it should have asked about the community game. 

The response I received was that I probably hadn't been asked about the community game as my first few answers, about how I am involved with rugby, may have suggested I'm not involved in the community game. 

Since I am a current national league player, and selected that option, it is hard to see how much more involved in the community game I could be than running around tackling people on a Saturday afternoon. 

RFU committee members only care about their days out at Twickenham. 


That sounds like there are different questions depending on your answers? I'll try it again (there doesn't seem to be any limit on having a go) and try to pretend I'm involved in the community game....maybe say I'm a Mini & Junior coach?
Update: Yes it does. I'm pretending to have an admin job and am a CB rep. Some odd questions 'do you want a loan' etc until it goes back to the 'do you want to come to watch a game at Twickers/on the telly'.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PiffPaff Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2020 at 07:25
Wow, therefore a Social Profiling survey. Remember when former Home Secretary Michael Howard was described as having "something of the night about him."

Well this survey has "something of the Cambridge Analytica about it"

By going down the selective question route the survey responses will swing from:-

Hot Dogs, 25 minute Games, Half a Game, British Bull-Dog, Debenture Holder, Bigger Leg Room in the West Stand, Bollinger, County games, No County Games, Stay at home watch on TV, go to the game, play it on my PS4, pay up to £150 for a International Ticket, Pay no more than £75 for a International Ticket, all games at Twickenham, no games at Twickenham, play some games away from Twickenham, no relegation, yes relegation, salary cap, no salary cap, fizzy pop.......

Second thoughts maybe they are auto-writing the PMs next speech?
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Originally posted by PiffPaff PiffPaff wrote:

Wow, therefore a Social Profiling survey. Remember when former Home Secretary Michael Howard was described as having "something of the night about him."

Well this survey has "something of the Cambridge Analytica about it"

By going down the selective question route the survey responses will swing from:-

Hot Dogs, 25 minute Games, Half a Game, British Bull-Dog, Debenture Holder, Bigger Leg Room in the West Stand, Bollinger, County games, No County Games, Stay at home watch on TV, go to the game, play it on my PS4, pay up to £150 for a International Ticket, Pay no more than £75 for a International Ticket, all games at Twickenham, no games at Twickenham, play some games away from Twickenham, no relegation, yes relegation, salary cap, no salary cap, fizzy pop.......

Second thoughts maybe they are auto-writing the PMs next speech?
How exactly? It’s a questionnaire that uses skip logic, exactly the same as a analog version that states ‘if yes go to section 2’. It’s hardly ground breaking. 

Seems everyone gets asked the Twickenham questions regardless, but it stands to reason that someone filling in an RFU survey might be a tad more relevant person to ask that question to opposed to anyone off the street. 


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373, I would suggest then that some of the skip logic if flawed. I started the thread as I was questioned about attending games and not about the Community Game.

I'm a CB Secretary and my interest is solely helping the community game.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Neasham Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 May 2020 at 11:44
I no longer have a formal role but entered my previous committee role and it took me down the Twickenham route. I would have been much happier if I’d been asked questions about club rugby (don’t like the “community” description.)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PiffPaff Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 May 2020 at 08:00
ok can any one say this isn't fishy smelling? Survey ends, following day the Telegraph are reporting this......

Great a survey about the game, asking "stakeholders"? seems to have been sent to the Press quicker than you can say "This survey was nothing to do with the game, community or otherwise, its all about ££££££s"

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Originally posted by PiffPaff PiffPaff wrote:

ok can any one say this isn't fishy smelling? Survey ends, following day the Telegraph are reporting this......

Great a survey about the game, asking "stakeholders"? seems to have been sent to the Press quicker than you can say "This survey was nothing to do with the game, community or otherwise, its all about ££££££s"



Think that just about sums it up.
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I take it the bars will be closed, with the 2 metre rule, masks etc.
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Originally posted by Guinness John Guinness John wrote:

I take it the bars will be closed, with the 2 metre rule, masks etc.

No the bars will be open. RFU branded facemasks with built in drinking straws will be mandatory at the unbelievably cheap price of £24.99
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Originally posted by knightandday knightandday wrote:

No the bars will be open. RFU branded facemasks with built in drinking straws will be mandatory at the unbelievably cheap price of £24.99

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Originally posted by FHLH FHLH wrote:

Originally posted by knightandday knightandday wrote:

No the bars will be open. RFU branded facemasks with built in drinking straws will be mandatory at the unbelievably cheap price of £24.99

Someone has beaten you to it LOL

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I understand the RFU have calculated that if they stick to the 2m social distancing rule then the capacity will drop from 82000 to 5000. To make ends meet that would mean a £100 ticket selling for £1640.
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Originally posted by Camp Freddie Camp Freddie wrote:

I understand the RFU have calculated that if they stick to the 2m social distancing rule then the capacity will drop from 82000 to 5000. To make ends meet that would mean a £100 ticket selling for £1640.


And a beer for £80 per pint
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Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Camp Freddie Camp Freddie wrote:

I understand the RFU have calculated that if they stick to the 2m social distancing rule then the capacity will drop from 82000 to 5000. To make ends meet that would mean a £100 ticket selling for £1640.


And a beer for £80 per pint

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