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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote clieves Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Sep 2020 at 11:33
My apologies in advance for sinning below.

I went to watch a football match on Saturday - ground capacity 3000 - permitted attendance was originally 600 but I believe reduced to 400. I'd be surprised if there wasn't more than 400 there.

Temperature of all supporters taken and a one way system in and out of the bar and that was about it with regards to social distancing. We were asked to keep two seats between groups in the stand but rows weren't blocked out so someone was sitting directly behind me. Around the ground apart from the fact people weren't "hemmed in" there didn't seem to be any efforts to socially distance people. 
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Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Mark W-J Mark W-J wrote:

I've just read that 'organised team sport' is excluded - but presumably only for the players and not the spectators.


As long as each group of up to 6 spectators socially distance from other groups then surely this is allowed - no different from going to the pub or restaurant, apart from being outside so less of a risk

If I can no longer go down the pub with more than 6 mates am not sure I can go in the club bar with them post match either, so this has to have an impact on crowds coming back to games surely?  If it doesn’t then the whole groups of 6 thing will just be ignored / abused.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Halliford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Sep 2020 at 16:07
As I understand it we can have groups of up to 6 from multiple households, up to 20 if from two households. At the same time we can only have 30 inside the Clubhouse so most activity has to be outside. We have laid out spaces for that so that groups can use the Bars but stay separate. We are doing the RFU Pitch Up 2 Play this weekend, having started our Mini programme last weekend. We will be monitoring this very carefully to ensure that the rules (law from Monday) are being followed correctly by everyone.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Robb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Sep 2020 at 16:29
Good job we have that organised team sport rule exempting rugby from the new East German-esc diktat.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Richard Lowther Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Sep 2020 at 17:04
Originally posted by clieves clieves wrote:

My apologies in advance for sinning below.

I went to watch a football match on Saturday - ground capacity 3000 - permitted attendance was originally 600 but I believe reduced to 400. I'd be surprised if there wasn't more than 400 there.

Temperature of all supporters taken and a one way system in and out of the bar and that was about it with regards to social distancing. We were asked to keep two seats between groups in the stand but rows weren't blocked out so someone was sitting directly behind me. Around the ground apart from the fact people weren't "hemmed in" there didn't seem to be any efforts to socially distance people. 


I went to a 'non league' friendly - although the latter attitude was in short supply yesterday. 

Similar steps in place - 'ticket only', temp check on arrival, check in by app, admittance times limited, one way system, takeaway bar service, blocked off areas (pinch points), restricted seating arrangements, card only, no programme, delayed exits etc. It seemed to work well for both club and supporters and everyone seems to follow the rules. 

It would work for rugby - for 95% of clubs, but I still feel the major issue is for the players and contagion by contact, rather than the fans. Unless that issue is resolved, contact community rugby could still be a long way off. 
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Richard the other major issue you have, that most people have not mentioned is changing and showering facilities.

This will be a major issue with upwards of 20 people who used to fit into one room, but now that same amount of people have to be spread over 3 or 4 rooms. You then add in Physio staff and medical staff and all of a sudden you have not enough space for two sides to change! Its interesting to see some sides having to change in the stands in Prem games, that is a major issue.

Whilst you are wearing face masks in shops rugby is just not going to get played below the Prem, it's sad but I think that's pretty much a fact.Add in the "R" rate going north as well as Unis going back this week, that is going to increase that rate even more, I think we are look at Jan at best, if at all in the 20/21 season!


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Originally posted by Scrumtime Scrumtime wrote:

Richard the other major issue you have, that most people have not mentioned is changing and showering facilities.

This will be a major issue with upwards of 20 people who used to fit into one room, but now that same amount of people have to be spread over 3 or 4 rooms. You then add in Physio staff and medical staff and all of a sudden you have not enough space for two sides to change! Its interesting to see some sides having to change in the stands in Prem games, that is a major issue.

Whilst you are wearing face masks in shops rugby is just not going to get played below the Prem, it's sad but I think that's pretty much a fact.Add in the "R" rate going north as well as Unis going back this week, that is going to increase that rate even more, I think we are look at Jan at best, if at all in the 20/21 season!



I was discussing this at the game with my long suffering better half.  We couldn't understand why local cricketers had to go to a game fully dressed, yet the footballers could use the changing rooms as if nothing has happened.  We agreed that there was no logic in the decision. 


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Originally posted by Richard Lowther Richard Lowther wrote:

Originally posted by Scrumtime Scrumtime wrote:

<span style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-stretch: inherit; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: line;">Richard the other major issue you have, that most people have not mentioned is changing and showering facilities.</span><div style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-stretch: inherit; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: line;"><br style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;">
<div style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-stretch: inherit; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: line;">This will be a major issue with upwards of 20 people who used to fit into one room, but now that same amount of people have to be spread over 3 or 4 rooms. You then add in Physio staff and medical staff and all of a sudden you have not enough space for two sides to change! Its interesting to see some sides having to change in the stands in Prem games, that is a major issue.<div style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-stretch: inherit; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: line;"><br style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;"><div style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-stretch: inherit; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: line;">Whilst you are wearing face masks in shops rugby is just not going to get played below the Prem, it's sad but I think that's pretty much a fact.Add in the "R" rate going north as well as Unis going back this week, that is going to increase that rate even more, I think we are look at Jan at best, if at all in the 20/21 season!




I was discussing this at the game with my long suffering better half.  We couldn't understand why local cricketers had to go to a game fully dressed, yet the footballers could use the changing rooms as if nothing has happened.  We agreed that there was no logic in the decision. 




Can they? As you say no sense whatsoever. I knew cricketers couldn't use the changing rooms, but I assumed other sports were the same.
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