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BOMBSHELL from Dan Schofield, just published in the Torygraph, as below; no word yet from HQ on this or indication about how it would impact level 2. But at first glance not very uplifting...Stern Smile

Rugby Union is facing a devastating financial blow after medical guidelines released by the sport's governing body stated matches should be played behind closed doors until a vaccine exists for Covid-19.

With the Rugby Football Union already projecting to lose £50million because of the pandemic, the prospect of the long-term absence of large-scale crowds from major venues would plunge the sport in England - and across the world - into crisis. It is expected that it could be up to 18 months before a vaccine is freely available.

And the difficulty of even returning behind closed doors was also laid bare in the report, which stated that upon returning for training players will initially need to observe social distancing of 1.5 metres, wear gloves and face masks, and refrain from making any physical contact such as hugging or handshakes.

All players will also be asked to fill in a daily questionnaire for symptoms of Covid-19 and will be required to have their temperature checked before entering the clubhouse or training facility. Anyone with a temperature higher than 37.5 centigrade will be sent home.

Premiership Rugby’s ambition of staging the remainder of the 2019/20 season this summer also appeared to recede after World Rugby advised that competitive rugby should not resume until national governments allow public gatherings of up to 250 people. Prime Minister Boris Johnson has said that phase two of the Government’s coronavirus strategy will be announced next week, which is likely to be limited to small social gatherings.

Compiled by medical experts Éanna Falvey, Prav Mathema, Mary Horgan, Martin Raftery, the World Rugby guidelines are being issued to all unions who are expected to create a framework for a return to play in conjunction with their own government’s advice on Public Gathering Restrictions, Social Distancing, Travel Restrictions (PST). This will then be passed to all clubs, amateur and professional. 
Players will initially need to observe social distancing of 1.5 metres during training, wear gloves and face masks, and refrain from making any physical contact such as hugging or handshakes. All players will also be asked to fill in a daily questionnaire for symptoms of Covid-19 and will be required to have their temperature checked before entering the clubhouse or training facility. Anyone with a temperature higher than 37.5 centigrade will be sent home. 

The long and winding return of how rugby operated pre-pandemic is staggered into stages that could last several weeks. Under World Rugby’s projection, “normal competition” would not resume until after a vaccine has been introduced. 

The first stage would be a return to rugby training, which is likely to coincide with the government reopening schools and non-essential businesses. Even then training would be staggered between groups of five or ten players, depending on government advice, who should be assigned their own specific coach to avoid overlap between groups. The guidelines state: “Where possible, all players and staff should wear face masks to prevent possible spread from asymptomatic, infected players.” Players are also advised to travel alone to and from training and should shower and eat at home. 
Clubs will also be required to conduct a deep clean after each session. “Facilities would remain unavailable until cleaning can be completed.” 

The next stage would be for full squad training once the government allow gatherings of up to 50 people. However, full-contact training should be planned in consultation with local public health authorities and will need PST to allow “close contact” or a specific Government exemption. Unions and clubs will need to demonstrate an ability to “comprehensively screen, test and contact trace”to reach that stage. 

World Rugby are conscious that coaches may be tempted to ignore or bypass their advice warning: “Your actions will speak far louder than words, and will affect the health of yourself, your family, colleagues and friends. For coaches, the temptation to progress beyond the measures permitted will be an issue.”

World Rugby recommends that competitive matches should only resume once there is an agreement between union, clubs, competition organisers, coaches and players. Unions are advised to appoint a Covid-19 Manager to present the return to training and matches with the government and manage the communication across the clubs and competitions. The manager will also be asked to conduct a risk assessment for when matches can resume. 

Those first matches are “likely to be over short distances” and will not include overnight stays. Players are advised to travel individually by car. Once competitive rugby successfully resumes within a country then international rugby could take place providing the countries share “relaxed border control measures”.

The prospect of England hosting southern-hemisphere countries in the autumn appears remote with trans-continental matches appearing as the penultimate stage of rugby’s return to normal competition. 

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Looks likely there will be no rugby until the New Year.
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Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

BOMBSHELL from Dan Schofield, just published in the Torygraph, as below; no word yet from HQ on this or indication about how it would impact level 2. But at first glance not very uplifting...Stern Smile

Rugby Union is facing a devastating financial blow after medical guidelines released by the sport's governing body stated matches should be played behind closed doors until a vaccine exists for Covid-19.

With the Rugby Football Union already projecting to lose £50million because of the pandemic, the prospect of the long-term absence of large-scale crowds from major venues would plunge the sport in England - and across the world - into crisis. It is expected that it could be up to 18 months before a vaccine is freely available.

And the difficulty of even returning behind closed doors was also laid bare in the report, which stated that upon returning for training players will initially need to observe social distancing of 1.5 metres, wear gloves and face masks, and refrain from making any physical contact such as hugging or handshakes.

All players will also be asked to fill in a daily questionnaire for symptoms of Covid-19 and will be required to have their temperature checked before entering the clubhouse or training facility. Anyone with a temperature higher than 37.5 centigrade will be sent home.

Premiership Rugby’s ambition of staging the remainder of the 2019/20 season this summer also appeared to recede after World Rugby advised that competitive rugby should not resume until national governments allow public gatherings of up to 250 people. Prime Minister Boris Johnson has said that phase two of the Government’s coronavirus strategy will be announced next week, which is likely to be limited to small social gatherings.

Compiled by medical experts Éanna Falvey, Prav Mathema, Mary Horgan, Martin Raftery, the World Rugby guidelines are being issued to all unions who are expected to create a framework for a return to play in conjunction with their own government’s advice on Public Gathering Restrictions, Social Distancing, Travel Restrictions (PST). This will then be passed to all clubs, amateur and professional. 
Players will initially need to observe social distancing of 1.5 metres during training, wear gloves and face masks, and refrain from making any physical contact such as hugging or handshakes. All players will also be asked to fill in a daily questionnaire for symptoms of Covid-19 and will be required to have their temperature checked before entering the clubhouse or training facility. Anyone with a temperature higher than 37.5 centigrade will be sent home. 

The long and winding return of how rugby operated pre-pandemic is staggered into stages that could last several weeks. Under World Rugby’s projection, “normal competition” would not resume until after a vaccine has been introduced. 

The first stage would be a return to rugby training, which is likely to coincide with the government reopening schools and non-essential businesses. Even then training would be staggered between groups of five or ten players, depending on government advice, who should be assigned their own specific coach to avoid overlap between groups. The guidelines state: “Where possible, all players and staff should wear face masks to prevent possible spread from asymptomatic, infected players.” Players are also advised to travel alone to and from training and should shower and eat at home. 
Clubs will also be required to conduct a deep clean after each session. “Facilities would remain unavailable until cleaning can be completed.” 

The next stage would be for full squad training once the government allow gatherings of up to 50 people. However, full-contact training should be planned in consultation with local public health authorities and will need PST to allow “close contact” or a specific Government exemption. Unions and clubs will need to demonstrate an ability to “comprehensively screen, test and contact trace”to reach that stage. 

World Rugby are conscious that coaches may be tempted to ignore or bypass their advice warning: “Your actions will speak far louder than words, and will affect the health of yourself, your family, colleagues and friends. For coaches, the temptation to progress beyond the measures permitted will be an issue.”

World Rugby recommends that competitive matches should only resume once there is an agreement between union, clubs, competition organisers, coaches and players. Unions are advised to appoint a Covid-19 Manager to present the return to training and matches with the government and manage the communication across the clubs and competitions. The manager will also be asked to conduct a risk assessment for when matches can resume. 

Those first matches are “likely to be over short distances” and will not include overnight stays. Players are advised to travel individually by car. Once competitive rugby successfully resumes within a country then international rugby could take place providing the countries share “relaxed border control measures”.

The prospect of England hosting southern-hemisphere countries in the autumn appears remote with trans-continental matches appearing as the penultimate stage of rugby’s return to normal competition. 



Unfortunately until there is a vaccine I do not see the game being restored to any where near what it was. 

Stating the obvious, I know, without any source of income and continued costs, the collateral damage will be significant; the very few "professional" clubs that make a profit have a chance of survival but those that rely upon benefactors are clearly at risk. Sponsors will have been impacted in the same way (added to which no games equals no brand recognition), doubtless some will be considering exercising force majeure.

The game, at a number of levels, was on a commercial knife edge before Covid came along; there was no disaster plan in place.  It is very worrying times, I just hope that the structure can survive until there is a vaccine.

Only my view, but I suggest that there will be a major reset of the game.....

Stay safe all
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Originally posted by One For The Ditch One For The Ditch wrote:

Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

BOMBSHELL from Dan Schofield, just published in the Torygraph, as below; no word yet from HQ on this or indication about how it would impact level 2. But at first glance not very uplifting...Stern Smile<div id="ypm-extension" ="ypm-extension"="">

Rugby Union is facing a devastating financial blow after medical guidelines released by the sport's governing body stated matches should be played behind closed doors until a vaccine exists for Covid-19.

With the Rugby Football Union already projecting to lose £50million because of the pandemic, the prospect of the long-term absence of large-scale crowds from major venues would plunge the sport in England - and across the world - into crisis. It is expected that it could be up to 18 months before a vaccine is freely available.

And the difficulty of even returning behind closed doors was also laid bare in the report, which stated that upon returning for training players will initially need to observe social distancing of 1.5 metres, wear gloves and face masks, and refrain from making any physical contact such as hugging or handshakes.

All players will also be asked to fill in a daily questionnaire for symptoms of Covid-19 and will be required to have their temperature checked before entering the clubhouse or training facility. Anyone with a temperature higher than 37.5 centigrade will be sent home.

Premiership Rugby’s ambition of staging the remainder of the 2019/20 season this summer also appeared to recede after World Rugby advised that competitive rugby should not resume until national governments allow public gatherings of up to 250 people. Prime Minister Boris Johnson has said that phase two of the Government’s coronavirus strategy will be announced next week, which is likely to be limited to small social gatherings.

Compiled by medical experts Éanna Falvey, Prav Mathema, Mary Horgan, Martin Raftery, the World Rugby guidelines are being issued to all unions who are expected to create a framework for a return to play in conjunction with their own government’s advice on Public Gathering Restrictions, Social Distancing, Travel Restrictions (PST). This will then be passed to all clubs, amateur and professional. 
Players will initially need to observe social distancing of 1.5 metres during training, wear gloves and face masks, and refrain from making any physical contact such as hugging or handshakes. All players will also be asked to fill in a daily questionnaire for symptoms of Covid-19 and will be required to have their temperature checked before entering the clubhouse or training facility. Anyone with a temperature higher than 37.5 centigrade will be sent home. 

The long and winding return of how rugby operated pre-pandemic is staggered into stages that could last several weeks. Under World Rugby’s projection, “normal competition” would not resume until after a vaccine has been introduced. 

The first stage would be a return to rugby training, which is likely to coincide with the government reopening schools and non-essential businesses. Even then training would be staggered between groups of five or ten players, depending on government advice, who should be assigned their own specific coach to avoid overlap between groups. The guidelines state: “Where possible, all players and staff should wear face masks to prevent possible spread from asymptomatic, infected players.” Players are also advised to travel alone to and from training and should shower and eat at home. 
Clubs will also be required to conduct a deep clean after each session. “Facilities would remain unavailable until cleaning can be completed.” 

The next stage would be for full squad training once the government allow gatherings of up to 50 people. However, full-contact training should be planned in consultation with local public health authorities and will need PST to allow “close contact” or a specific Government exemption. Unions and clubs will need to demonstrate an ability to “comprehensively screen, test and contact trace”to reach that stage. 

World Rugby are conscious that coaches may be tempted to ignore or bypass their advice warning: “Your actions will speak far louder than words, and will affect the health of yourself, your family, colleagues and friends. For coaches, the temptation to progress beyond the measures permitted will be an issue.”

World Rugby recommends that competitive matches should only resume once there is an agreement between union, clubs, competition organisers, coaches and players. Unions are advised to appoint a Covid-19 Manager to present the return to training and matches with the government and manage the communication across the clubs and competitions. The manager will also be asked to conduct a risk assessment for when matches can resume. 

Those first matches are “likely to be over short distances” and will not include overnight stays. Players are advised to travel individually by car. Once competitive rugby successfully resumes within a country then international rugby could take place providing the countries share “relaxed border control measures”.

The prospect of England hosting southern-hemisphere countries in the autumn appears remote with trans-continental matches appearing as the penultimate stage of rugby’s return to normal competition. 



Unfortunately until there is a vaccine I do not see the game being restored to any where near what it was. 

Stating the obvious, I know, without any source of income and continued costs, the collateral damage will be significant; the very few "professional" clubs that make a profit have a chance of survival but those that rely upon benefactors are clearly at risk. Sponsors will have been impacted in the same way (added to which no games equals no brand recognition), doubtless some will be considering exercising force majeure.

The game, at a number of levels, was on a commercial knife edge before Covid came along; there was no disaster plan in place.  It is very worrying times, I just hope that the structure can survive until there is a vaccine.

Only my view, but I suggest that there will be a major reset of the game.....

Stay safe all


Interesting to see that the Premier League club doctors have raised concerns regarding the resumption of Premier Football

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52536329

This would transfer to most levels of most sports including rugby.
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Originally posted by JonDee JonDee wrote:

Originally posted by One For The Ditch One For The Ditch wrote:

Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

BOMBSHELL from Dan Schofield, just published in the Torygraph, as below; no word yet from HQ on this or indication about how it would impact level 2. But at first glance not very uplifting...Stern Smile<div id="ypm-extension" ="ypm-extension"="">

Rugby Union is facing a devastating financial blow after medical guidelines released by the sport's governing body stated matches should be played behind closed doors until a vaccine exists for Covid-19.

With the Rugby Football Union already projecting to lose £50million because of the pandemic, the prospect of the long-term absence of large-scale crowds from major venues would plunge the sport in England - and across the world - into crisis. It is expected that it could be up to 18 months before a vaccine is freely available.

And the difficulty of even returning behind closed doors was also laid bare in the report, which stated that upon returning for training players will initially need to observe social distancing of 1.5 metres, wear gloves and face masks, and refrain from making any physical contact such as hugging or handshakes.

All players will also be asked to fill in a daily questionnaire for symptoms of Covid-19 and will be required to have their temperature checked before entering the clubhouse or training facility. Anyone with a temperature higher than 37.5 centigrade will be sent home.

Premiership Rugby’s ambition of staging the remainder of the 2019/20 season this summer also appeared to recede after World Rugby advised that competitive rugby should not resume until national governments allow public gatherings of up to 250 people. Prime Minister Boris Johnson has said that phase two of the Government’s coronavirus strategy will be announced next week, which is likely to be limited to small social gatherings.

Compiled by medical experts Éanna Falvey, Prav Mathema, Mary Horgan, Martin Raftery, the World Rugby guidelines are being issued to all unions who are expected to create a framework for a return to play in conjunction with their own government’s advice on Public Gathering Restrictions, Social Distancing, Travel Restrictions (PST). This will then be passed to all clubs, amateur and professional. 
Players will initially need to observe social distancing of 1.5 metres during training, wear gloves and face masks, and refrain from making any physical contact such as hugging or handshakes. All players will also be asked to fill in a daily questionnaire for symptoms of Covid-19 and will be required to have their temperature checked before entering the clubhouse or training facility. Anyone with a temperature higher than 37.5 centigrade will be sent home. 

The long and winding return of how rugby operated pre-pandemic is staggered into stages that could last several weeks. Under World Rugby’s projection, “normal competition” would not resume until after a vaccine has been introduced. 

The first stage would be a return to rugby training, which is likely to coincide with the government reopening schools and non-essential businesses. Even then training would be staggered between groups of five or ten players, depending on government advice, who should be assigned their own specific coach to avoid overlap between groups. The guidelines state: “Where possible, all players and staff should wear face masks to prevent possible spread from asymptomatic, infected players.” Players are also advised to travel alone to and from training and should shower and eat at home. 
Clubs will also be required to conduct a deep clean after each session. “Facilities would remain unavailable until cleaning can be completed.” 

The next stage would be for full squad training once the government allow gatherings of up to 50 people. However, full-contact training should be planned in consultation with local public health authorities and will need PST to allow “close contact” or a specific Government exemption. Unions and clubs will need to demonstrate an ability to “comprehensively screen, test and contact trace”to reach that stage. 

World Rugby are conscious that coaches may be tempted to ignore or bypass their advice warning: “Your actions will speak far louder than words, and will affect the health of yourself, your family, colleagues and friends. For coaches, the temptation to progress beyond the measures permitted will be an issue.”

World Rugby recommends that competitive matches should only resume once there is an agreement between union, clubs, competition organisers, coaches and players. Unions are advised to appoint a Covid-19 Manager to present the return to training and matches with the government and manage the communication across the clubs and competitions. The manager will also be asked to conduct a risk assessment for when matches can resume. 

Those first matches are “likely to be over short distances” and will not include overnight stays. Players are advised to travel individually by car. Once competitive rugby successfully resumes within a country then international rugby could take place providing the countries share “relaxed border control measures”.

The prospect of England hosting southern-hemisphere countries in the autumn appears remote with trans-continental matches appearing as the penultimate stage of rugby’s return to normal competition. 



Unfortunately until there is a vaccine I do not see the game being restored to any where near what it was. 

Stating the obvious, I know, without any source of income and continued costs, the collateral damage will be significant; the very few "professional" clubs that make a profit have a chance of survival but those that rely upon benefactors are clearly at risk. Sponsors will have been impacted in the same way (added to which no games equals no brand recognition), doubtless some will be considering exercising force majeure.

The game, at a number of levels, was on a commercial knife edge before Covid came along; there was no disaster plan in place.  It is very worrying times, I just hope that the structure can survive until there is a vaccine.

Only my view, but I suggest that there will be a major reset of the game.....

Stay safe all


Interesting to see that the Premier League club doctors have raised concerns regarding the resumption of Premier Football

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52536329

This would transfer to most levels of most sports including rugby.


Just when you get hit with one potential negative along comes another 1

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/52546683

If the loss does hit £107 million cannot see any support for the Championship and there must be a cut in support for the Community game and hopefully the Premiership although am not holding my breath on the last one
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Sides that make a profit. Premier figures have been inflated by the CVC money of around £7.2m. From what I have seen having searched Companies House the only side in the premier to have made a profit to year end a June 19 before CVC money is taken into consideration is surprise surprise Exeter. I was unable access all premier teams but the others I did all have made a profit but not on stand along figures. 

Have not looked to far at the Championship only at Bedford Blues who have made a profit for the 4th year running. 

Playing behind closed doors get the games played but what money do the clubs make? No additional gate money season ticket money to be refunded and no additional income from hospitality bars and food. It would seem that it will only add to the costs as players would need playing and removing from Furlough. 

The Championship is in the same position re costs but most sides have not staff to pay I wonder what moth to month costs are. I think they are better off not playing until all measures are lifted.
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Rugby with no fans or money is just a game played by 30 people.

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For the premiership where it is on TV it sort of makes sense - as at least we can watch.
Frankly if I have to I will pay for the live stream of Cambridge's matches, but I will miss meeting everyone.

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Originally posted by Trailfinder Trailfinder wrote:

Rugby with no fans or money is just a game played by 30 people.
..a bit negative there. That pretty much describes proper grassroots rugby or 2nd/3rd team rugby for those teams that have them at the lower levels..  I get your point though
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Islander , are you sure about this article?
Little reference to it anywhere else that I can see
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Originally posted by Dobber Dobber wrote:

Originally posted by Trailfinder Trailfinder wrote:

Rugby with no fans or money is just a game played by 30 people.
..a bit negative there. That pretty much describes proper grassroots rugby or 2nd/3rd team rugby for those teams that have them at the lower levels..  I get your point though


Fair criticism, it wasn't meant to come across as negative. The whole premise of what professional sport is actually all about is now coming into question. It's entertainment, it's a job, it's a foundation of the community but take away the fans and money and what is actually left? It sounds like there is a chance the Championship and below may not even have a 2020/21 season. (Sorry went all negative again!)
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Is there now not a case for the Championship to be looking at getting ITV to televise a number of matches each week (ITV 3/4) As I reckon the appetite for any televised sport will be great. This may help to offset the funding somewhat.
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It's been announced the tv companies have seen a 42 % drop in advertising revenues, there might not be an IYV 3/4 soon...…………...
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The crunch time for many clubs will come when the Government withdraws furloughing it cannot financially keep it up for more than three months. If clubs cannot have large gatherings and cannot open their bars there will be zero income and in all probability physical contact will not commence until Xmas at least. Those clubs will have to cancel all contracts and moth ball their clubs until a vaccine is found . Many clubs will go under only those who are strictly amateur will survive on volunteer labour. Hoping the players will be there when they restart,. This will be the key to the future many players in their last two years of rugby could retire prematurely and others will simply go to play for their local clubs until everything is resolved. Every club with few exceptions relies on Sponsors who fund the club out of the own income created from successful businesses and they will be severely affected in the short term I think that the game will be altered  and may be never to return the structure we had in the past.   
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I was watching an interview with the Chancellor who has said they may well continue the furlough scheme for those last to open so it might well be that clubs can take advantage of that. 
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If schools reopen successfully that may enable Mini and Junior rugby to restart which will provide membership income and the ability to do some bar sales for many Clubs. If the Government decides that the hospitality industry must remain closed until after Christmas it will have to provide some support or see swathes of the country close with mass unemployment. Any sensible Government will provide some sort of assistance to enable that industry to continue. How will be able to celebrate successfully leaving the EU on 31st December if the pubs are shut?!
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Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

If schools reopen successfully that may enable Mini and Junior rugby to restart which will provide membership income and the ability to do some bar sales for many Clubs. If the Government decides that the hospitality industry must remain closed until after Christmas it will have to provide some support or see swathes of the country close with mass unemployment. Any sensible Government will provide some sort of assistance to enable that industry to continue. How will be able to celebrate successfully leaving the EU on 31st December if the pubs are shut?!


If pubs remain shut then surely sports club bars will also be shut?
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Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

If schools reopen successfully that may enable Mini and Junior rugby to restart which will provide membership income and the ability to do some bar sales for many Clubs. If the Government decides that the hospitality industry must remain closed until after Christmas it will have to provide some support or see swathes of the country close with mass unemployment.

I wouldn't like to assume that reopened schools are going to be doing PE.

Can't find the source now (might have been Bill Sweeney's cross-examination the other day) but I think we could be looking at rugby being last out of lockdown - of the team sports - sometime mid 2021. Next season could be 2021-22...

What's really interesting is that some of the more thoughtful people in the Association code are starting to mutter similar things.
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Not sure how much appetite there will be to play at lower league level without an effective vaccine. Employers won't be desperate to hear that people are off work because they caught C19 whilst playing rugby!

As far the prolonged support of professional sport by the Govt is concerned I'm not sure that is what your average taxpayer wants to hear. You already have other sports making the point that they need support but unfortunately this is NOT a matter of life or death and by definition sports/teams that can't pay their way will have to sink or swim.

Large numbers of people are employed directly or indirectly by professional sports/teams but these are NOT essential occupations. I'm a big sports fan but would not like to see significant sums diverted from front line services to any sport.

The Olympics is coming up -does it matter if Team GB win NO medals and send a reduced team if the money saved is used for the good of all? This is a clear wake up call for bigtime professional sport and the days of mega salaries particularly in football may well be over.

Rugby survived the big freeze of 1963 but lots of clubs suffered financially at that time before emerging stronger.
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