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Topic: Waterloo Pre season
Posted By: Guests
Subject: Waterloo Pre season
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2008 at 15:59

Have been away recently anybody know how its going and what players we have on board. Delighted to hear Freeman and Jlo are back. Any news anybody




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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2008 at 15:04
I was pleased to hear about Freeman and Jaylo, but last I heard they hadn't signed as yet. I don't know if anything has changed in the last week or so.
 
As for the forwards I don't think we have signed any major lumps and the game plan is being based on a small quick pack.
 
Suppose we'll just have to wait and see.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2008 at 15:59
have they both been retained by Sedgley Park?


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2008 at 13:58
All I heard Mersey was they are able to sign but hadn't as yet. This may have changed as my source told me this a couple of weeks ago.


Posted By: Caldyboy
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2008 at 14:57

Whats the news on the pre-season signings? Anyone lcoal?



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2008 at 19:48
It is unlikely with no 'retainer' being paid that you will see any new signings from outside the area until later in the summer.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2008 at 13:12
Latest word is that we have hookers but no props.
 
Looks like we better find some pretty quick!


Posted By: Saturnine
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2008 at 14:12
Originally posted by Pragmatic Pete Pragmatic Pete wrote:

we have hookers but no props.
 
 
 
...must.......resist..........temptation....


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2008 at 14:28
Originally posted by Pragmatic Pete Pragmatic Pete wrote:

Latest word is that we have hookers but no props.
 
Looks like we better find some pretty quick!
 
when will martin o'keefe be fit again?
 
will rob o'donnell be at waterloo?
 
those two would be good enough for most sides so then just a bit of back up is required


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2008 at 16:19
Cakes isn't going to be fit until Christmas at the earliest. He can't do anything exercise until late October. That was from the horse's mouth.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2008 at 16:21
Should have said this in last post. As far as I am aware Rob O'Donnell is currently not available for Waterloo. However, this may change or it may not. If I hear anything I'll post the news.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2008 at 22:33
http://www.fylderugby.co.uk/News/22b0708.htm -
Dan Loader moves to Fylde


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2008 at 09:19
Pragmatic Pete, just out of interest where is Rob O'Donnell these days - I know he enjoys being at Waterloo.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2008 at 09:54
Rob signed for Sale before last season I believe and was playing last year as a loan player.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2008 at 12:08
Originally posted by Woodlander Woodlander wrote:

http://www.fylderugby.co.uk/News/22b0708.htm -
Dan Loader moves to Fylde
 
did he play for waterloo last season.
 
thought he was a winger and not a centre


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2008 at 12:50

Been out of touch over the last few weeks in the sunnier climes of the Canaries!

In answer to the above questions
Rob was always a Sale player on loan to us. He is still a Sale player.
Martin's knee is bad, but I believe he was treated very badly by the outgoing DOR and the current coach, so he was pretty disenchanted with waterloo (not the first player!).
Dan Loader has played mostly at wing and full back for Waterloo...He will be a good signing at Fylde and should know most of their team and backs moves as they are all ex - Waterloo players!
 


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2008 at 15:51
Originally posted by Ian H Ian H wrote:

Been out of touch over the last few weeks in the sunnier climes of the Canaries!

In answer to the above questions
Rob was always a Sale player on loan to us. He is still a Sale player.
Martin's knee is bad, but I believe he was treated very badly by the outgoing DOR and the current coach, so he was pretty disenchanted with waterloo (not the first player!).
Dan Loader has played mostly at wing and full back for Waterloo...He will be a good signing at Fylde and should know most of their team and backs moves as they are all ex - Waterloo players!
 
 
your talk of O'Keefe suggests he may not be back at blundellsands


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2008 at 14:19
At the moment I don't think anyone would take a chance on signing Cakes due to his injury. However if he does regin his match fitness there will be a number of clubs interested in him as big props with experience are scarce.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2008 at 00:32
What about the young prop who won "most improved player" is he staying?


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2008 at 15:38

I do think James Hall is staying, he has been training since returning from holiday.  Looking very fit by all accounts.

Some whispers about second rows are getting a little louder. 



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2008 at 16:29
Mersey View
 
Can you elaborate on second rows? Good or bad news?


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2008 at 10:04
Alex Davies off to Plymouth Albion
John Nugent off to play in France


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2008 at 11:13
I'm getting a depressing feeling of daja vu here.
 
2 more local boys flown the nest!!!
 
In the words of the singer Cher - " If I could turn back time..."


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2008 at 11:14
I think the loss of both of these players is an absolute shame.  Any idea whereabouts in France John is going?


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2008 at 12:20
I don't know but you should be able to track him by the wake of yellow cards


Posted By: Joemac
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2008 at 13:26

Definition: The phrase "deja vu" is French for "already seen" and is used to refer to when a person experiences the feeling that they have seen, experienced, or been someplace before even when they are sure that that is not really true. So, for example, a person who arrives at a new city they have never before visited may experience deja vu on a street, experience the intense feeling that they have been on that street at some point in the past.

When you experience similar incidents reoccuring over a period of time, this is not "deja vu".


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2008 at 13:31
alex goindg no where!!


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2008 at 13:46
YEAH ALEX HAS BEEN TRAINING, LOADS OF NEW BOYS- BRIERS AND MCLOUGHLIN, ANDERSON AND GIBNEY! WITH BRIERS CENTRE, MCLOUGHLIN PROP, ANDO SCRUM HALF, AND GIBNEY HOOKER, A BIT MORE STRENTH IN DEPTH! ALSO FREEMAN AND JAYLO BACK!


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2008 at 14:53
Bosh...those new players I believe all came from West Park who were relegated from National 3 north last year. Can't really see how that "strenghtens" Loo's position?
 
Would rather have Alex and Nugent instead.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2008 at 15:03
Originally posted by BOSH BOSH wrote:

YEAH ALEX HAS BEEN TRAINING, LOADS OF NEW BOYS- BRIERS AND MCLOUGHLIN, ANDERSON AND GIBNEY! WITH BRIERS CENTRE, MCLOUGHLIN PROP, ANDO SCRUM HALF, AND GIBNEY HOOKER, A BIT MORE STRENTH IN DEPTH! ALSO FREEMAN AND JAYLO BACK!
 
Briers was in the Lancashire squad and is a talent I believe.
 
Gibney is ex-Waterloo - is it the same one?
 
Anderson is talented up and coming half back.
 
Mcloughlin - which one as there was one at Preston and one at West Park St Helens.
 
Payne and Deventer - have they confirmed.
 
Does this mean Duffy to play at out half


Posted By: L33
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2008 at 17:49
Briers - Very Good player
 
Gibney - Hard working lad - good back up hooker
 
Anderson - Young lad still learning the game, again good back up
 
Mcloughlin - Lazy Prop needs to get fit. If it is the one who played at west park
 
Payne and Deventer - Very good players


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 06 Aug 2008 at 01:01
It would have been good to keep Alex, he would have been pretty much gauranteed a start each week at Loo.  I do not see him forcing his way into PA starting 15 because he is not strong enough in the tackle.  He may regret going once the season gets under way. 
 
John Nugent left last season only to return when he did not settle in NZ.  He may yet be back.
 
Cakes appears to have recovered sooner than expected, Back in training in a week or so. 
 
A couple of weeks left to get the pack sorted then full steam ahead against Tyndale on the 6th. Come on you Loo boys.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2008 at 10:32
Been confirmed that Alex Davies has indeed left for Plymouth for a years contract.
 
Big, big blow as he was outstanding last year and was the focus of virtually all our attacking play (an goal kicking). When he was injured he was badly missed.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2008 at 11:35
Originally posted by Ian H Ian H wrote:

Been confirmed that Alex Davies has indeed left for Plymouth for a years contract.
 
Big, big blow as he was outstanding last year and was the focus of virtually all our attacking play (an goal kicking). When he was injured he was badly missed.
 
what other 10's do Loo have in reserve?


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2008 at 19:59
Hopefully Loo Man your technical work will be better than your spelling and knowledge of fixtures.
I wish John and Alex good luck and success at their new clubs.
Obviously,the Loo Man has limited experience of team spirit.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2008 at 20:54
mcloughlin was at orrell could not get into team so went back to wastepark ,made to train by chris chudleigh ,so left for preston ,then signs for loo.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2008 at 21:39
Originally posted by rugbydad rugbydad wrote:

mcloughlin was at orrell could not get into team so went back to wastepark ,made to train by chris chudleigh ,so left for preston ,then signs for loo.
This mcloughlin is it
Mcloughlin left when Chudleigh was left in charge. (not the only one it seems)
 
Played for lancashire this year


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2008 at 00:18
lancs must be short of props then


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2008 at 10:36
Rob O'Donnell played for Sale against Perpingnon (typo?) last night (24 - 24).
Well done Rob!


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2008 at 11:29
Are we able to view the game anywhere?  I remember the first time he played for us - a nice lad


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2008 at 15:42
Originally posted by rugbydad rugbydad wrote:

lancs must be short of props then
 
everyone is short of props particularly on the tight head side.
 
every club in the North west lacks strength in that position including SP


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2008 at 16:04

Not only was Rob in the squad at Sale Sharks.  Carl Fearns (age 19) a former mini and junior player started the game at No, 8. Carl was a regular for years at Waterloo prior to him playing at Sedburgh, then England u18 (as Captain). 



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2008 at 22:40
loo have had good jnr props have they not come through ,or have they left


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2008 at 20:42
Thanks for your negative comments! why dont u concentrate on your own rugby?
i know who you are so why dont u start by growing up.
liam


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2008 at 17:54

Waterloo's first pre season game is this saturday against Birkenhead Park at the Upper Park Birkenhead. 



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2008 at 18:14
Wow - that should be interesting, with the large ex-Waterloo group at Birkenhead.
 
Should make for good viewing!! Think I'll pop across.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2008 at 20:06
Originally posted by Mersey Mersey wrote:

Originally posted by Ian H Ian H wrote:

 
your talk of O'Keefe suggests he may not be back at blundellsands
 
As much as i want Cakes back, why should he after the way he was treated at the end of the year? He started last year as captain and did a good job of it, then his unfortunate accident and Duffy took over (not saying he wasn't a good replacement) but what recognition did Cakes get at the end of the year? Nothing, so i wouldn't be surprised if he didnt want to come back.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2008 at 16:35
I hear Cakes was training last night with Waterloo.  I am looking forward to the pre season game this week but why on earth has it not been advertised on the club website


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2008 at 12:27

There must be yet ANOTHER technical falut with the website.

Where is the pre season game and when is it?
 
 


Posted By: Chrisloofan
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2008 at 14:32

Waterloo-7 According to the site it says these three away games, but they still havnt confirmed the kick off times.

Pre-Season Games

Birkenhead Park away Sat 16th August No kick offtime on there site

Aberavon away Sat 23rd August according to there site its 14.30 Ko Time

Caldy away Sat 30th August. according to there site its 15.00 Ko Time



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2008 at 16:35
Along with Birkenhead, Caldy has a big contingent of ex-waterloo players too. I'll be watching both games with interest.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2008 at 16:39
Exactly what i was think Jamie.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2008 at 18:38
does anybody have a full fixture list for this year ?
waterloo's website have some fixtures missing


Posted By: Chrisloofan
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2008 at 22:31
they will b on here http://www.ncarugby.org/fixnl2.htm - http://www.ncarugby.org/fixnl2.htm


Posted By: Know All
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2008 at 12:18
Birkenhead Park 32 Waterloo 10
A disgracefull performance by Waterloo, totally outplayed and were lucky it wasn't more. Forwards were a joke, who got pushed around all day. Doesn't look good for the season a head


Posted By: Redted
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2008 at 19:19
What division are Park in?


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2008 at 11:42
Birkenhead Park are in North 1.  It was the worst performance i have ever seen by any Waterloo side. I believe that they need at least 5 new forwards and a new pair of half backs. We can have all the pace in the world in the centres and wings but if you are playing behind a second rate pack and poor half backs your doomed. Well played to Park and all the ex players looked well up for the match.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2008 at 14:54
I also watched the game. It was very disappointing from our point of view. As most people seemed to fear, it was confirmed that we no longer have a pack to compete in Nat 2. Our backs (with whom our salvation seems to lie) were completely nullified by a very good Brirkenhead defence. Only freeman's (welcome back!) powerful thrusts in midfield caused them any incovenience at all.
 
However probably the most frustrating aspect of the day, is watching the Ex waterloo players dominate the game for Birkenhead. CJ, Andy trotter and Cheeky all punched huge holes in us, whilst Biff and Blythey completely ran the whole show from 10 and 8.
I appreciate that it maybe ancient history in some people minds, but questions are still unanswered as to why our promtion team of 2 seasons ago is now plying it's trade (very successfully) all over the northwest - specifically Birkenhead, Caldy and Fylde, Whilst most them live within 10 miles or so of Blundellsands.
 
Methinks the Prickly Pearen bagpipe, who is now conspicuous by his absence has a lot to answer for.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2008 at 15:00
In answer to Big Daddy - we need 5 new forwards.
 
I've no doubt the club will do it's usual trick of bringing in well paid big blokes from Wales / Spain / Italy / Sale loan players...however what about these names? Ring any bells?
 
Dan Palmer, Chris Tymms, Darren Clarke, Dave Blyth, Nikil TChoukie ?, Chris Jones, Dan Smith, Paul White, Dave Mercer...That's 10 for you who walk into the current team - and guess where they all live!


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2008 at 15:06

Jamie, I completely argee with you.

We need these players back...not the well paid loan players, we need players who are commited to the club and are committed to playing week in, week out.
 
I think we need these players back, if anything to bring back that saturday feeling of watching our local club perform. Also, to help commit the youngesters to coming up through the ranks, 1. so we have back up players who are commited  2.so they can play for there local club at a decent level.
Look at John Nugent, he was a local boy, commited to the club, came through the ranks of waterloo and where is he now?! France ...
If we have any chance of surviving, we need to start encouraging the locals back!


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2008 at 15:22
Well said.
 
Jamie, what is a "prickly pearen bagpipe?" I'm pretty by the sottish impication I know who you are referring to. And yes, I would like some answers from him to!


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2008 at 20:30
Me too.
 
Along with dozen quality forwards who left with alarming speed during the "reign of the Bagpipe", let's not forget the backs. Thank the Lord Freeman and Jaylo are back (despite the chairman's grossly incorrect, ignorant and insulting comments at the EGM) however there are many ex loo men plying their to trade in the vicinty too: Craig Aikman, Biff Handley, Steve Nutt, Dan Loader, Gary Lunt, Andy Trotter, Jon Broxon,...Have I forgot anyone?
 
Agreed we need to look and plan forward, but we never seem to learn from the mistakes of our past.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2008 at 20:51
Thank the Lord Freeman
Hadn't realised congratulations Freeman, is it Lord Freeman of Blundlesands or Crosby


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2008 at 23:02
missed that game sat, worrying comments.
Was'nt there anything positive to take from the game? any good individuals?
I hear there is no 2nd rows but how did the props and hookers look?
 
LOO WILL PULL IT TOGETHER!!


Posted By: Chrisloofan
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2008 at 12:48
Totally agree with all those comments, if we had those players named, that are local back, we wouldnt have to be woorying if we had a team each year, just wanting to know if we have any new players, but as long as we carry on like this, that doesnt look like happening.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2008 at 13:23
Looks like Brian Finlay and Reg have gone as well.  The house is empty. 


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2008 at 13:29
Originally posted by Paul C Paul C wrote:

Looks like Brian Finlay and Reg have gone as well.  The house is empty. 
 
What??!!
 
What the hell's going on. Brian has patched up our best players for over a decade!
 
What's happened here Paul C?


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2008 at 13:32
Looks to me if you have an opinion then you are on your ear. anyone local doesn't seem to be wanted on the voyage.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2008 at 14:15
it gets worse day by day!


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2008 at 14:20
 
 
Lets try and put some shine on the situation.  The game at Park was a chance to give all those with aspirations to play 1st 15 and have trained pre season a chance to stake a claim.  Not once did the strongest combination take to the field at the same time.
A streamlined squad will be on show in Aberavon and Caldy for the next pre season encounters.
 
We may yet require loan players to fill some gaps, but hey smell the coffee people, Sale and other prem clubs feed most of our rivals in this league with very important  players.
 
As for the front row, Ince and Rylo look more than capable, Props when fit will cope, the back row will be mobile and the backs will match any they meet on the road this season.
 
We could do with a Siddall or a Wilko to put some steel in the second row, but who would not?
 
I would rather give the lads the benefit of the doubt an give them some support for the start of the new season rather than condemn them be for a ball is passed.
 
You can cancel the hangman for a couple of weeks and maybe just maybe the gallows will be redundant for another year.


Posted By: Know All
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2008 at 14:27
Anybody who is not afraid to speak out and tell the management about where it is going wrong has been shown the door Blyth, biff, tyms, smith, palmer, cakes and now Brian. These are all people who i know wanted to stay at the club but have been forced out.  The club appear to want nothing to do with the past and only want people who couldn't care less about its future. The club will do what it always does, panic after last weeks game and waste more money on dross from overseas to plug the gap by poor pre season recruitment  and retention.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2008 at 14:52

The lads we have at the moment, didnt have the start they would of wanted and im sure they no that and will be trying to improve on last week. I'm sure can do their jobs at a good standard but at the end of the day we need cover players for then games go like this. That isn't condemning them, it's just thinking of a back up when they have their bad days...you'd rather have a back up plan then not wouldnt you?

Yes getting the odd loan player would be good BUT what happens when their needed back? For example, PABLO ... he played how many games last year? and who covered him when gone? an inepxerienced player if i remember rightly i remember seein Alex D play 9,
We need the locals back either to cover or to play bring others through!


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2008 at 15:24
If it is true Brian has gone its a mega loss.He's been more than just a professional  physio;his enthuasism and support have been tremendous.Hopefully, the club will acknowledge his contribution  in a positivel way.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2008 at 11:56
Thursday 21st August.
 
Tonmawr 19 Waterloo 17.
 
Loo 17-0 up until the inevitable changes made.
 
Very promising as I believe Tonmawr beat Esher the previous Saturday.  Gareth Llewellen coaches Tonmawr.
 
Loo move on to play Aberavon today.
 
Nice to provide some positive Loo News!!


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2008 at 21:36
Saturday 23rd August.
 
Aberavon 55-7 Waterloo


Posted By: Caldyboy
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2008 at 08:25
Win or Loss for Waterloo? I assume win


Posted By: Hexhamshire Lad
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2008 at 09:29
A loss of that magnitude would be rather disturbing


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2008 at 10:05
It was a loss wasn't it?


Posted By: waverloo
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2008 at 18:18
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/ - http://www.walesonline.co.uk/   for a few lines on the game which Waterloo lost  57-7.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2008 at 09:24
Match report - http://www.aberavonwizards.co.uk/matchpack-waterlooHReport.htm - http://www.aberavonwizards.co.uk/matchpack-waterlooHReport.htm  
 
 


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2008 at 10:35
Originally posted by Ian H Ian H wrote:

Match report - http://www.aberavonwizards.co.uk/matchpack-waterlooHReport.htm - http://www.aberavonwizards.co.uk/matchpack-waterlooHReport.htm  
 
 
 
Waterloo led after 7 minutes with a try by Steve Dodd but who kicked the conversion?
1st Half
07 min: T - S.Dodd & C - F.Lynch (0 - 7)


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2008 at 10:17

Who are Waterloo playing this weekend?



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2008 at 12:08
Caldy (at Caldy).
 
I'll be there. I really hope it's a better day than my last trip to Wirral 2 weeks ago!Ouch


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2008 at 13:23

Sounds like a tasty one!

After speaking to a couple of the Blaydon mob, they were very impressed by Caldy.
 
Be a good tester as Blaydon play Waterloo first game of the season if I am not wrong?


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2008 at 13:08
Cmon then, how did waterloo get on Vs Caldy?
any one see the game??
How did they perform? scrums, open play?


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2008 at 18:12
Waterloo 26 Caldy 19
A terrible game played by 2 poor teams with the exception of one really good waterloo try made out of nothing by the backs.  Had seen Waterloo play 2 weeks before hand and witnessed little improvement. Very small pack that looks like will struggle in nat 2 and poor half backs. Little depth with Ince (hooker) playing at openside and bell (2nd team stalwart) playing 6. Not impressed by Caldy either thought they would have been a lot better than they were after beating blaydon, Their backs showed no penetration just going sideways with a 10 who couldn't or wouldn't tackle and their pack minus their first choice 2nd rows and 8 just rolled over like my dog to get their belly rubbed.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2008 at 20:59
Originally posted by The Traveller The Traveller wrote:

Waterloo 26 Caldy 19
A terrible game played by 2 poor teams with the exception of one really good waterloo try made out of nothing by the backs.  Had seen Waterloo play 2 weeks before hand and witnessed little improvement. Very small pack that looks like will struggle in nat 2 and poor half backs. Little depth with Ince (hooker) playing at openside and bell (2nd team stalwart) playing 6. Not impressed by Caldy either thought they would have been a lot better than they were after beating blaydon, Their backs showed no penetration just going sideways with a 10 who couldn't or wouldn't tackle and their pack minus their first choice 2nd rows and 8 just rolled over like my dog to get their belly rubbed.
 
Caldy also has an issue with hooker throwing in.  They had enough possession but 13 and wings looked like school boys as did the 6 in their approach to playing the game.
Waterloo had an aggressive streak which served them well.
 
The optimists might disagree and the doom and gloom merchants might also scorn  but I would say a low mid table finish for Waterloo and a high mid table finish for Caldy in their respective divisions..........................but then again


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2008 at 15:10
Originally posted by Mersey Mersey wrote:

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The optimists might disagree and the doom and gloom merchants might also scorn  but I would say a low mid table finish for Waterloo and a high mid table finish for Caldy in their respective divisions..........................but then again
 
Mersey - I watched the games against Birkenhead and Caldy and if you think Loo are going to finish low - mid table, then I'd very much like to borrow your rose tinted specs when I next receive my bank statement!
 
On the evidence so far and without any further receruitment in the forwards, they will be lucky to get a losing bonus point all season.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2008 at 10:38
Originally posted by Ian H Ian H wrote:

Originally posted by Mersey Mersey wrote:

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The optimists might disagree and the doom and gloom merchants might also scorn  but I would say a low mid table finish for Waterloo and a high mid table finish for Caldy in their respective divisions..........................but then again
 
Mersey - I watched the games against Birkenhead and Caldy and if you think Loo are going to finish low - mid table, then I'd very much like to borrow your rose tinted specs when I next receive my bank statement!
 
On the evidence so far and without any further receruitment in the forwards, they will be lucky to get a losing bonus point all season.
 
Caldy dominated Blaydon for 75% of the game I was told on Saturday


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2008 at 14:48

Wrong!

Blaydon should have beaten Caldy by 50 points given all their chances and they only had half of their side out! Caldy were however dominant in the scrummage for probably 75% of the game!



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2008 at 14:52

50 points??



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2008 at 15:48
Blaydon beat harrogate by 60 odd points last saturday


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2008 at 16:48
Against Caldy, Blaydon should have scored in the first and last seconds and about another 5 times inbetween. Caldy were however a decent side and their pack was exceptional in the scrummage.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2008 at 18:17
caldy were missing the 2nd rows plus player of the season at no8 plus a couple of backs ,the wings played like schoolboys because they are!.waterloo will struggle.


Posted By: TryMachine
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2008 at 10:36
THE RETURN OF CAKES
 
Good news my friends - salvation is at hand, or it will be on 4 October
 
http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0200sport/0350rugbyunion/tm_headline=martin-o-8217-keefe-set-for-return-as-ladies-start-in-fine-form%26method=full%26objectid=21665671%26siteid=50061-name_page.html - http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0200sport/0350rugbyunion/tm_headline=martin-o-8217-keefe-set-for-return-as-ladies-start-in-fine-form%26method=full%26objectid=21665671%26siteid=50061-name_page.html
 
I'm off to Satterthwaites to celebrate


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2008 at 12:14

Waterloo putting out a very talented back line tomorrow.

The ball and a change in the weather will suit them well.
 
win bonuses all round could be the order of the day at Blundellsands


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2008 at 14:46
Must be good i hear Freeman Payne didn't make squad


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2008 at 15:00
Duffy and Briers in the centre.
 
Payne didnt do too much against Caldy.
 
 


Posted By: Chrisloofan
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2008 at 17:21
here is the list of players from the crosby herald
 
http://www.crosbyherald.co.uk/sport/crosby-rugby/2008/09/04/waterloo-rufc-s-martin-o-keefe-aims-for-return-against-westcombe-park-68459-21668672/ - http://www.crosbyherald.co.uk/sport/crosby-rugby/2008/09/04/waterloo-rufc-s-martin-o-keefe-aims-for-return-against-westcombe-park-68459-21668672/


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2008 at 18:41
all not well at blundellsands,going to be a longhard season.



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