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Topic: RFU to cut 25% of workforce
Posted By: JonDee
Subject: RFU to cut 25% of workforce
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2020 at 13:39
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Is this the start of the big changes ?



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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2020 at 14:08
The loss of income form twickenham was going to have an impact.
Of course that should apply equally to the 12 as to the 1,200 non Premiership clubs.



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Posted By: JonDee
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2020 at 14:58
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

The loss of income form twickenham was going to have an impact.
Of course that should apply equally to the 12 as to the 1,200 non Premiership clubs.



Agreed and also to the enormously large governing structure of the RFU but am sure it will not


Posted By: Keeppushininthescrum
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2020 at 22:14
Does this mean less people with clipboards driving round in 4x4s who no nothing about rugby? 
If thats the case I'm in. 


Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2020 at 22:38
I have not met anyone with clipboards - but that of course does not mean they do not exist.

I have met some very well informed people running training courses for refs and coaches.
And I have met some dedicated RDOs ensuring school boys and girls get their first taste of rugby.





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Posted By: PiffPaff
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2020 at 07:43
Firstly we do realise these are people's jobs we are talking about! Secondly these cuts will probably see the CRC/RDOs to take the majority of the hit along with Ticket office staff and the like at Twickenham. What it won't consist of is any of the paid Executive Directors on £250K plus salaries.

Remember back in 2015, RWC here in England, the most profitable ever? That money was to be invested in the game. Remember the great AGP programme, 100 artificial pitches to be built the length and breadth of the country giving year round pitch access and a revenue stream for the hosting clubs and the RFU? Except due to costs that was pulled in 2018 after I think 15 were completed. Reasoning being that the new Hospitality Venue being built at Twickenham was costing more than planned and some belts needed a bit of tightening. 2019 a record financial commitment to the National Teams World Cup campaign because "Eddie is the man to deliver...." sees a brilliant victory over the ABs but a poor show in the final. The RFU still offer the incumbent coach a new contract and an annual salary of £750,000. Meanwhile first round of staff cuts at the RFU see some knowledgeable people go in various departments. 

The game itself seems in its worst state with the RFU Competitions Department literately fiddling when the RFU League structure burns, the breakaway in Lancashire which now incorporates Cheshire and the Championship being "defunded", travel funding pulled and no access to International Tickets for all clubs  next season as they need to keep Sponsors happy and offer places in the Hospitality suites at a price in which you could fly to New Zealand never mind watch them at TW2! 

The CEO tells every club apart from the Prem 12/13 clubs that you're all part of the Community game and we can't afford a second tier of professional rugby. Starters orders for Ringfencing.

Enter stage left - Covid-19

More belt tightening, people are asked and agree to take pay cuts for example how will Mr. Jones survive on his revised salary of £562,500 per year? Remembering of course that his last gig was back in March and its unlikely he'll have another until November? 70% of RFU staff get furloughed not the important one's you know Head of Media, Game Development just the one's who do the running around from club to club, school to school, true they couldn't do that but they are still being paid mainly by the Taxpayer not the RFU.

So we come to yesterday, Mr. Sweeney and his Board (don't get confused with the RFU Council aka the 57 old farts) mainly made up of salaried Executives who have a shake of the piggy bank and realise they might have to increase their own pay cuts and get by on £200K each (cancel the Foie Gras or buy it from Aldi)

More jobs to go, living in North I'll bet a higher percentage will be in the Field staff up here. Why?

Well the RFU use their CRCs/RDO's as cheap labour (liaisons) on Match Days at Twickenham so if you drag someone down from up North you have to pay travel and accommodation, you don't if you use a CRC from the Home Counties. 

The game is falling apart and whilst announcing that 25% of RFU staff are to go they provide a link to a cheery video praising everyone's patience during the pandemic, no need for a fruit filter here..........Huckleberry Crass! 





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Posted By: Fly Half
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2020 at 08:37
A very accurate summary I'm afraid,whilst the Premiership Clubs use the CVC money to pay off previous loans/debts leaving themselves for future years,a smaller percentage of a shrinking pie.


Posted By: RedWhine
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2020 at 10:10
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

I have not met anyone with clipboards - but that of course does not mean they do not exist.

I have met some very well informed people running training courses for refs and coaches.
And I have met some dedicated RDOs ensuring school boys and girls get their first taste of rugby.




I can certainly say the Kent Rugby Dev Officers & Community Coaches do a great job supporting grassroots rugby - excellent coaching sessions & really helpful on any club issues that come up - all good rugby people - They do have nice RFU 4x4s though!


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Posted By: Camp Freddie
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2020 at 11:18
Excellent overview PiffPaff.

And all on the same day when Bill Sweeney says the RFU will take 4-5 years to make back the £107 million loses that Bernard Laporte announces that the deal to sell the soul off the 6 Nations to CVC is almost done and France will gain £66.5 million. How much will the RFU gain and has this already been factored in ?

If not it would go some way to saving jobs.


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Posted By: Pristine Shorts
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2020 at 13:48

ENGLAND Golf has today invited applications from all affiliated clubs and facilities to The R&A's Covid-19 Support Fund.

In agreement with The R&A, a sum of £2,555,000 has been made available to clubs in England hit hard by the effects of the coronavirus pandemic.

From today, clubs and facilities can now register their interest in the fund and begin the application process.

Each club/facility may apply for a grant of up to £10,000.

Over to you, RFU.




Posted By: PiffPaff
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2020 at 13:53
er.....hasn't this been available to Clubs since April via the CBs?

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Posted By: God Bless The Apple
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2020 at 16:07
Pristineshorts...

What Piffpadff said.


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Posted By: Pristine Shorts
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2020 at 18:18
Sorry, must have missed that. Or something similar.


Posted By: Monkey Boy
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2020 at 23:46
Out of the 141 jobs currently to go, 104 are from Rugby Development (community game!!) 


Posted By: Cannon
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2020 at 09:45
Originally posted by Monkey Boy Monkey Boy wrote:

Out of the 141 jobs currently to go, 104 are from Rugby Development (community game!!) 
But "honestly, we really do" care about the Community Game - sadly as the revenue does not come from us we are a cost and not a benefit!!

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Posted By: PiffPaff
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2020 at 10:11
The problem as seen by the RFU is simple, Top 1% bring in the cash, other 99% get the benefit. When its actually top 1% bring in the cash, usually provided by the other 99% going to TW2, watching the Prem etc. Erode your base, expect some subsidence.

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Posted By: JonDee
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2020 at 11:16
Originally posted by Cannon Cannon wrote:

Originally posted by Monkey Boy Monkey Boy wrote:

Out of the 141 jobs currently to go, 104 are from Rugby Development (community game!!) 
But "honestly, we really do" care about the Community Game - sadly as the revenue does not come from us we are a cost and not a benefit!!


What a surprise the next statement will be that as they hit all their targets (which only they know about ) the board are awarded a large bonus.


Posted By: Camp Freddie
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2020 at 12:18
So who will run all the training courses etc if there are no RFU staff on the ground. ?

As well as that are they expecting all this work to be picked up by already overloaded volunteers ?


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Posted By: Camp Freddie
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2020 at 13:22
Going off what Monkey Boy says, (where did you get the figures by the way) and the 2019 RFU report

Stadium, Commercial, Admin and Pro rugby = 59%
Rugby Development = 41%

This will change to

Stadium, Commercial, Admin and Pro rugby = 71%
Rugby Development = 29%

That shows an increase in the interests to the grassroots game, not !!



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Posted By: Monkey Boy
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2020 at 00:28
Imagine if the Exec was cut.
Imagine if Council was really stripped back.

Just saying....


Posted By: office dweller
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2020 at 12:56
Lets get real !
The loss of travelling expenses, increase in ref fees, no international match tickets to sell, and delayed start to any rugby, is not going to be much helped by a grand or two from the RFU via a loan or grant.
Clubs at National level from Level 4 downwards are going to struggle to survive unless they become the local pub and get some footfall in. Fulfilling fixtures that necessitate a bus journey and at least a 1k trip are just not on.
It will take at least 18 months from now for any real income to be generated and the days of information gathering by the RFU are numbered and thus their staff have and will have to go.
 
Not pretty but this is the real world where there aren't wealthy benefactors and sponsors under pressure to survive themselves and not give money away to clubs for dubious sponsorship benefits


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Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2020 at 19:37
Originally posted by Camp Freddie Camp Freddie wrote:

Going off what Monkey Boy says, (where did you get the figures by the way) and the 2019 RFU report

Stadium, Commercial, Admin and Pro rugby = 59%
Rugby Development = 41%

This will change to

Stadium, Commercial, Admin and Pro rugby = 71%
Rugby Development = 29%

That shows an increase in the interests to the grassroots game, not !!


Blame those who signed the agreement with PRL which requires the RFU to keep shelling out funds even if they aren’t earning it. 


Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 10:55
Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by Camp Freddie Camp Freddie wrote:

Going off what Monkey Boy says, (where did you get the figures by the way) and the 2019 RFU report

Stadium, Commercial, Admin and Pro rugby = 59%
Rugby Development = 41%

This will change to

Stadium, Commercial, Admin and Pro rugby = 71%
Rugby Development = 29%

That shows an increase in the interests to the grassroots game, not !!




Blame those who signed the agreement with PRL which requires the RFU to keep shelling out funds even if they aren’t earning it. 


In hindsight, it would have been better to have signed a deal giving a %age of income to PRL - but then hindsight is a powerful thing.

As it stood I am sure RFU didn't do this as they saw their income forever spiralling upwards as the cost of Tickets, Hospitality, food and drink could be raised each year.

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Posted By: Redted
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 12:10
The loss of travelling expenses is a killer for clubs away from the centre of the country.  
In NCA regards this means Devon & Cornwall teams in Nat1. and Nat.2 are going to be slaughtered, travel funding loses of around £16K.

But it's OK clubs in London who only have the occasional long trip won't have much of a problem.
Where are the decisions made?  Oh London!

The RFU are clearly trying to kill of the clubs on the edges of the country and keep the NCA to a cosy little club around London.




Posted By: Thunderbird
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 12:13
I have felt that way for several years RT. 


Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 12:37
Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by Camp Freddie Camp Freddie wrote:

Going off what Monkey Boy says, (where did you get the figures by the way) and the 2019 RFU report

Stadium, Commercial, Admin and Pro rugby = 59%
Rugby Development = 41%

This will change to

Stadium, Commercial, Admin and Pro rugby = 71%
Rugby Development = 29%

That shows an increase in the interests to the grassroots game, not !!


Blame those who signed the agreement with PRL which requires the RFU to keep shelling out funds even if they aren’t earning it. 

Not true, the first four year of the deal gave, but the next four years are based on an income split. If the RFU do well, the PRL get more, but if things go belly up the PRL clubs share the agony. 


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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 13:36
Originally posted by Richard Lowther Richard Lowther wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by Camp Freddie Camp Freddie wrote:

Going off what Monkey Boy says, (where did you get the figures by the way) and the 2019 RFU report

Stadium, Commercial, Admin and Pro rugby = 59%
Rugby Development = 41%

This will change to

Stadium, Commercial, Admin and Pro rugby = 71%
Rugby Development = 29%

That shows an increase in the interests to the grassroots game, not !!




Blame those who signed the agreement with PRL which requires the RFU to keep shelling out funds even if they aren’t earning it. 


Not true, the first four year of the deal gave, but the next four years are based on an income split. If the RFU do well, the PRL get more, but if things go belly up the PRL clubs share the agony. 


So as the RFU are making a huge loss this year they won't be paying the Premiership anything?

Because if they are then it cannot be fair

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Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 14:27
Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Richard Lowther Richard Lowther wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by Camp Freddie Camp Freddie wrote:

Going off what Monkey Boy says, (where did you get the figures by the way) and the 2019 RFU report

Stadium, Commercial, Admin and Pro rugby = 59%
Rugby Development = 41%

This will change to

Stadium, Commercial, Admin and Pro rugby = 71%
Rugby Development = 29%

That shows an increase in the interests to the grassroots game, not !!




Blame those who signed the agreement with PRL which requires the RFU to keep shelling out funds even if they aren’t earning it. 


Not true, the first four year of the deal gave, but the next four years are based on an income split. If the RFU do well, the PRL get more, but if things go belly up the PRL clubs share the agony. 


So as the RFU are making a huge loss this year they won't be paying the Premiership anything?

Because if they are then it cannot be fair

No the PRL will still get their piece of flesh. Except it won't be quality beef, more chicken drumsticks. 


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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 17:47
I think I am on record as saying that travel for all team should be the first thing that the RFU funds and only after that is covbered should they give any money based on which league tyou are playing in. I am not sure why redruth get £30k, Pirates get £600k and Bristol get £2m.

Would Pirates be any better than Redruth without central funds, indeed would Bristol?

If the RFU is meant to represent all clubs, that includes Douglas, Jersey and Sandown and Shanklin.
To be fair Hampshire RFU do negotiate a discount on the isle of Wight ferry.


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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2020 at 11:24
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

I think I am on record as saying that travel for all team should be the first thing that the RFU funds and only after that is covbered should they give any money based on which league tyou are playing in. I am not sure why redruth get £30k, Pirates get £600k and Bristol get £2m.

Would Pirates be any better than Redruth without central funds, indeed would Bristol?

If the RFU is meant to represent all clubs, that includes Douglas, Jersey and Sandown and Shanklin.
To be fair Hampshire RFU do negotiate a discount on the isle of Wight ferry.


I think Bristol would be considering the owners millions

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Posted By: JonDee
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2020 at 12:57
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