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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Sep 2012 at 13:17

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Sep 2012 at 12:04
Originally posted by AndyI AndyI wrote:

Originally posted by SK 88 SK 88 wrote:

I got to 44 by going 27*4=108, 152-108=44.

I think your maths falls down on order of operations; the 152 is, apparently as know one really knows for sure, two separate deals, one worth 108m over 4 years and another worth 44m over 3.

Not that the exact sums really matter as they are all based on guessed (even if good guesses) numbers.

Guardian intimated that the £100m is actually the European portion, or perhaps that the European pot is also £100m.

It is all very murky, and as soon as it looks like clearing up it gets murkier again!

Maybe by Wednesday we'll know more as PRL will present it to ERC, who knowing how the Blazered Unions work will leak it to the papers immediately.
 
My figures were based on Mcaffreys statement,  that they had got a a 50% increase on the Domestic rights which were previously worth £18M a year, giving a new value of £27M. 
As you say no one has seen anything in black and white.
 
Much as I despise PRL for their blatent attempts to completely take control of international rugby revenues, which I believe should always be controlled by the ruling union for the general good of the game, and their even more blatent attempts to ringfence their corral,  I've got to admire them for their ability to play off competing organizations, whether it be broadcasters, unions or sponsors, to get the best deal for their members.
The figures being quoted for club rugby, be it domestic or European, stagger me. I'd always thought that they'd been lumped in with the international rights deals (and maybe the HEC ones) to fudge their real value and allow the RFU and PRL to seal a deal for player access (primarily) that provided an obvious, but unassessable, bung to PRL to get them to agree to the deal. I'd put it down to weak RFU negotiating, with unclear objectives for them.
 
I'd guessed they were about 25% of the amount that was actually allocated for them. These figures suggest there is some real value to them, I'd love to see what that translates to in viewing figures and growth over the last 5 years or so.
 
I came across an interesting discussion on the trination/superleague TV rights here, which covers some of the issues involved when trying to agree a split of revenues and show that the strains in European deals aren't unique.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Sep 2012 at 12:21
Originally posted by TC08 TC08 wrote:

Originally posted by AndyI AndyI wrote:

Originally posted by SK 88 SK 88 wrote:

I got to 44 by going 27*4=108, 152-108=44.

I think your maths falls down on order of operations; the 152 is, apparently as know one really knows for sure, two separate deals, one worth 108m over 4 years and another worth 44m over 3.

Not that the exact sums really matter as they are all based on guessed (even if good guesses) numbers.

Guardian intimated that the £100m is actually the European portion, or perhaps that the European pot is also £100m.

It is all very murky, and as soon as it looks like clearing up it gets murkier again!

Maybe by Wednesday we'll know more as PRL will present it to ERC, who knowing how the Blazered Unions work will leak it to the papers immediately.
 
My figures were based on Mcaffreys statement,  that they had got a a 50% increase on the Domestic rights which were previously worth £18M a year, giving a new value of £27M. 
As you say no one has seen anything in black and white.
 
Much as I despise PRL for their blatent attempts to completely take control of international rugby revenues, which I believe should always be controlled by the ruling union for the general good of the game, and their even more blatent attempts to ringfence their corral,  I've got to admire them for their ability to play off competing organizations, whether it be broadcasters, unions or sponsors, to get the best deal for their members.
The figures being quoted for club rugby, be it domestic or European, stagger me. I'd always thought that they'd been lumped in with the international rights deals (and maybe the HEC ones) to fudge their real value and allow the RFU and PRL to seal a deal for player access (primarily) that provided an obvious, but unassessable, bung to PRL to get them to agree to the deal. I'd put it down to weak RFU negotiating, with unclear objectives for them.
 
I'd guessed they were about 25% of the amount that was actually allocated for them. These figures suggest there is some real value to them, I'd love to see what that translates to in viewing figures and growth over the last 5 years or so.
 
I came across an interesting discussion on the trination/superleague TV rights here, which covers some of the issues involved when trying to agree a split of revenues and show that the strains in European deals aren't unique.
 
I also believed that the league games were a 'loss leader' in order to gain the bigger prize - International rugby but is this new deal a similar idea - package the domestic league with European games because the value of the domestic league isn't that great on its own?
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