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    Posted: 03 Sep 2008 at 11:55

National League 1

Coventry vs Cornish Pirates
Referee: Mark Wilson
Touch judges: Luke Pearce, Peter Facey
Assessor: Bob Bullock

Exeter Chiefs vs Leeds Carnegie
Referee: Llyr Apgeraint Roberts
Touch judges: Adrian Hartwell, Steve Savage
Assessor: Roger Quittenton, Gary Welsh

London Welsh vs Doncaster
Referee: Terry Hall
Touch judges: Steve Leyshon, Fred Spong
Assessor: Steve Womersley

Manchester vs Sedgley Park
Referee: tba 
Touch judges: Richard Draper, Steve Makinson

Newbury vs Moseley
Referee: tba
Touch judges: Ed Turnill, Paul Burton

Otley vs Esher
Referee: tba
Touch judges: Darren Gamage, Rhys Davies

Nottingham vs Plymouth Albion
Referee: Nick Williams
Touch judges: Chris Sharp, Fred Farndon
Assessor: Ian Roberts
 
Rotherham Titans vs Bedford Blues
Referee: Keith Lewis
Touch judges: Chris Seeley, Paul Dickens
Assessor: Tony Rossall

from: http://www.rugby365.com/laws_referees/home/1124660.htm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Sep 2008 at 11:59
Rob Debney for the Otley game, or so I am led to believe.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Sep 2008 at 12:42

As many seem to see this weeks game at Sandy Park as a defining moment in this year's league it is to be hoped that Llyr Apgeraint-notwelshreally-Jones has a better game than last sat a Billeseley which was commonly viewed as a shocker.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Sep 2008 at 14:12
You can tell just how starved everyone has been of real rugby......were getting orgasmic over who the officials are!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Sep 2008 at 14:31
billesley nomad I agree in viewing his reffing of the Cov.stourbrdge friendly which exasperated both sets of coaches.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Sep 2008 at 17:11
Don't think we are getting orgasmic...B&S...  More like we want to know who's doing the effing reffing Before we get to the game...
 
If the reffing is akin to last years added to that the ELV's we are in for a dismal time with some of the numpties..
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Sep 2008 at 21:14

Seems that as much pre match planning goes into the ref nowadays as the opposition.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Sep 2008 at 22:20
Originally posted by Barford Blue Barford Blue wrote:

Seems that as much pre match planning goes into the ref nowadays as the opposition.

 
Makes sense; if a ref has known foibles play to them. How often do we watch teams take the first quarter/half getting used to a particular officials own unique interpertations of the laws?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Sep 2008 at 15:13
Originally posted by Piggy53 Piggy53 wrote:

Don't think we are getting orgasmic...B&S...  More like we want to know who's doing the effing reffing Before we get to the game...
 
If the reffing is akin to last years added to that the ELV's we are in for a dismal time with some of the numpties..
 
 
So with which of the ELVs will officials have trouble. They seem to be pretty straightforward to me
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Sep 2008 at 15:27
I actually think that it's the supporters who won't get it, most of them are amateur "refs" who don't know the current laws let alone the experimental ones (bit like mother in law driving from the back seat - MIND THAT CAT!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Sep 2008 at 16:17
Those naughty little ELVeS are bound to cause trouble.Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Sep 2008 at 16:44
elvs seem to me to be of little consequence yet,
 
a few quick throws etc, several failed pull down mauls etc, 5 mtr scrum offside looks much like line out offside,
 
of much more importance is the irb directive to get players to stay on their feet,
 
which is it seems an impossible task, and extremely tough on the referees who as usual are at the sharp end, and have to sort it out whilst under real pressure from the whole game - players-coaches-supporters-administrators-assessors etc etc etc!!! 
 
I wish them luck, its a difficult enough job without having to solve the un-solvable!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Sep 2008 at 19:02
They couldn't get the original rules right for Pete' sake what chance have they got now..???
 
Organised chaos...
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Sep 2008 at 20:01
What "rules" are they Piggy?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Sep 2008 at 06:55
laws, piggy, laws
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Sep 2008 at 07:21
in what sense is the chaos organized?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Sep 2008 at 16:40
Get a grip lads, does it really matter what they are called.. The ref's haven't a clue half the time what they are anyway. 
 
If they couldn't get it right LAST year, what chance have they got with the new ones added..
 
How many times last year were we chastising certain refs for being useless. I'm not mentioning any names. We all know who they are, and dread them coming to ref our beloved teams.
 
I'll bet it's not too long before we start again....
 
Who'll be the first to fall apart at the seams and make a mess of the game..
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Sep 2008 at 16:54
Hopping on a familiar and favourite soap box.
I'm not sure it's entirely fair to blame individual refs here. Alright, some are plain useless, so are some rugby players; what do clubs do about that? replace them with cheap foreign imports or develop their skills.
The RFU has to take some proper action to address the fact that the professionalization of the game has meant that it is played with far great pace, skill and "professionalism" (in it's worst sense) and the standard of refereeing has simply not kept pace.
Let's be honest, why is it that the biggest shock with the new LAWS is not any of the new laws but the proper policing of players staying on their feet at the breakdown? Professional coaches and players managed to make sealing off a grey area - this could have been dealt with much more easily had there been a conserted attempt to stop it at the outset.
Rant over; back to the day job.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Sep 2008 at 17:02
As one referee said to me recently, "yes I make the occasional mistake, how many does the average player make in a game? If they didn't get it wrong I wouldn't need to blow my whistle unless they scored or to start stop each half."

I think the man had a point.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Sep 2008 at 17:16
"The RFU has to take some proper action to address the fact that the professionalization of the game has meant that it is played with far great pace, skill and "professionalism" (in it's worst sense) and the standard of refereeing has simply not kept pace."
 
if you want refs to become professional, ask your clubs to spend some of the cash that seems to be washing around div1 for some mediocre players on funding them full time,
 
they are mostly in well paid jobs, and would probably choose to stay put any way.
 
the game moves on at a real pace, commentators say that div1 is where the premiership was 5 years ago, so part time refs seem to be doing a fairly good job,
 
"Who'll be the first to fall apart at the seams and make a mess of the game.."
 
as always, the losing coach/supporters blame the ref`s errors, they rarely blame their players !!
 
At Leeds last weekend, some Nottingham folk were giving the ref a really hard time, they seemed to forget that their players were still on the bus for the 1st 10 minutes, and ran out of gas in the last 10!!
 
any ref will talk reasonably after a game about any issue, but all too often it is a confrontation, with only one party speaking!
 
try looking in the mirror first before blaming somebody else!!
 
I`ll get off my high horse now!!
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