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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote backrowb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Nov 2019 at 09:10
RB, Mine was a generalisation, but one that does hold up.  I remember visiting club a few years back and chatting to some locals and they were warning us about a lowly club  that was hoovering up talent for big bucks  - Old Elthamians
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sid James Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Nov 2019 at 12:43
Originally posted by backrowb backrowb wrote:

RB, Mine was a generalisation, but one that does hold up.  I remember visiting club a few years back and chatting to some locals and they were warning us about a lowly club  that was hoovering up talent for big bucks  - Old Elthamians

OE's are not a 'Club' as we know it. They are very much a 'Squad' with a benefactor. They have no other senior men's teams outside the 1st XV, no colts/academy, no Ladies teams, no mini juniors and no foundations and no draught beer!

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I appreciate your struggle and commend your club staying within a sustainable budget but surely you cannot deny that the attraction of the capital and numerous Premiership Clubs in London & the South means that more talent moves South, whether for rugby or employment and, that you benefit from being able to attract those players who may not quite be up to Premiership/Championship standard.  
There are a lot of Clubs in the North but that is where the comparison ends. In the North, there is not the obvious attractions of the capital and the numerous Premiership/Championship Clubs.
I think you need to accept that your location means that you have an advantage, whether you exploit it or not.
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SJ - Old Elthamians lost to Wharfedale last May in the National Colts cup final
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Nov 2019 at 13:52
And the old Elthamians II topping the Raging Bull Table must be a figment of the imagination.
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Yes OE's have a strong team in the Zoo League.
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SJ  I am no apologist for OE's. They, like others in Nat One (Chinnor, Cinderford, Rotherham, DMP) rely heavily on a benefactor. However many of your other points are incorrect. They run regular senior adult teams outside of the 1st XV. They have a mini and youth section with teams at most age groups and they run a women's section. Not sure what more you need to have to be a 'real' club- or is draught beer really the answer?
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Yes marigold, I think you've nailed it.
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Sid, just when everyone thought you were getting better. If you'd been at H.I's game last Saturday you'd have seen our Extra's side beat a very good Jersey team.
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Yes, definitely agree on draught beer being a must.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rabbie Burns Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Nov 2019 at 15:01
SJ you are correct that the London is a big pool for any young person but it’s also huge and it depends on where the players live that becomes key. It is quicker to get to Cambridge and Bishops Stortford than it is Richmond and Roslyn Park. All the AP clubs are in West London or North West which can mean 2 hours travel for any academy players so it is normally a non starter and if they are told they must come you don’t see the best of the players. I will leave OEs to the others to comment on. I will just mention that we have seen many cases of clubs built on benefactors that implode when the money disappears even those with long histories like London Welsh
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Originally posted by marigold marigold wrote:

SJ  I am no apologist for OE's. They, like others in Nat One (Chinnor, Cinderford, Rotherham, DMP) rely heavily on a benefactor. However many of your other points are incorrect. They run regular senior adult teams outside of the 1st XV. They have a mini and youth section with teams at most age groups and they run a women's section. Not sure what more you need to have to be a 'real' club- or is draught beer really the answer?


Marigold (really?)
If that is in fact the case, I stand corrected. It was not the impression given and yes, beer is the answer to most issues.
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Originally posted by wanderer wanderer wrote:

Sid, just when everyone thought you were getting better. If you'd been at H.I's game last Saturday you'd have seen our Extra's side beat a very good Jersey team.


Apology's,
Sorry to let you down.
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Originally posted by marigold marigold wrote:

SJ  I am no apologist for OE's. They, like others in Nat One (Chinnor, Cinderford, Rotherham, DMP) rely heavily on a benefactor. However many of your other points are incorrect. They run regular senior adult teams outside of the 1st XV. They have a mini and youth section with teams at most age groups and they run a women's section. Not sure what more you need to have to be a 'real' club- or is draught beer really the answer?
 

DMP do not have a 'benefactor' me old bamboo. Wash your mouth out.Dead
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Originally posted by backrowb backrowb wrote:

Yes, definitely agree on draught beer being a must.


Went to OEs once (3 or 4 years ago - at the old ground)

They had a very drinkable Marsdens Oyster Stout on at £2 per pint. Unfortunately have to agree on all other visits proper beer has been lacking.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mountain Man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Dec 2019 at 19:11
Originally posted by marigold marigold wrote:

SJ  I am no apologist for OE's. They, like others in Nat One (Chinnor, Cinderford, Rotherham, DMP) rely heavily on a benefactor. However many of your other points are incorrect. They run regular senior adult teams outside of the 1st XV. They have a mini and youth section with teams at most age groups and they run a women's section. Not sure what more you need to have to be a 'real' club- or is draught beer really the answer?

This is how rumours spread; where is your evidence of DMP having a benefactor? Never let the truth get in the way of a good post.
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