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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Raider999 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Feb 2021 at 14:06
Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Lions' scoop from local paper in Jersey... also picked up by the Grauniad<div id="ypm-extension" ="ypm-extension">



Read that today in Telegraph sports pages.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote islander Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Feb 2021 at 14:49
Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Lions' scoop from local paper in Jersey... also picked up by the Grauniad<div id="ypm-extension" ="ypm-extension">



Read that today in Telegraph sports pages.

Yes - lots of national papers have picked up on it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Robb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Mar 2021 at 12:29
Originally posted by Steve@Mose Steve@Mose wrote:

Australia's offer to host tour is turned down

Rightfully so, it was sheer opportunism. They can wait their turn. It's only 4 more years for them to wait.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Thatbloke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Mar 2021 at 16:21
Just been confirmed tour goes ahead as planned in South Africa
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Robb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Mar 2021 at 16:23
Good news then. Tradition and common sense upheld.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Donnyknightfan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Mar 2021 at 16:47
I’m all for the tour going ahead in South Africa but if there are no crowds It just spoils it totally for me. It’s just reduced to another soulless sporting event. I’m lucky enough to have been to SA in 2009 and the atmosphere at a Lions test is different to any other rugby occasion, it’s electric. The crowds are a massive part of what makes the Lions so unique. I just feel that this decision has been primarily made for monetary purposes and not for what is in the best interest of the Lions brand. 
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Official announcement:

Quote The British & Irish Lions and SA Rugby have confirmed they are aligned on delivering the Castle Lager Lions Series in South Africa in the scheduled playing window.

The Lions Board confirmed its preference to SA Rugby on Monday evening, prior to follow-up meetings earlier today (Tuesday).

“After reviewing information relating to the various contingency scenarios being considered, I can confirm that the Board’s intended position is for the Tour to go ahead as scheduled in South Africa in 2021,” said Jason Leonard, chairman of The British & Irish Lions.

“We acknowledge that there is a significant amount of work still to be undertaken to deliver a robust COVID-19 countermeasure plan to ensure a successful, safe and uninterrupted Tour. SA Rugby will have our full support to help implement this plan.”

Mark Alexander, president of the SA Rugby, said he would inform the Executive Council of the South African Rugby Union of the alignment.

“We appreciate the Lions’ faith and share their desire to see a safe and successful tour,” said Alexander.

“We have been in regular contact with our government to make that a reality against the backdrop of the pandemic and its predicted progression over the coming months.

“There are serious financial implications for SA Rugby, should the event take place without any supporters in attendance, and we cannot ignore that in our considerations. But we are determined that the eventual outcome will deliver the best occasion and experience for players, supporters and our commercial partners.”

Alexander said the original tour schedule was subject to review because of those considerations. Should any changes be required they will be communicated as soon as possible.

Leonard added: “Every British and Irish player dreams of wearing the famous red jersey, and players from the southern hemisphere aspire to be part of a Lions series. We owe it to the current players vying for a place in both squads to ensure they can become part of Lions history.

“We are very much looking forward to taking on South Africa for what promises to be a highly-competitive Series against the reigning World Champions.”

Alexander thanked the Castle Lager Lions Series’ commercial partners as well as the British & Irish Lions and ticket holders for their patience during the extended period of uncertainty.

“As hosts and ‘owners’ of the Castle Lager Lions Series no one has been more affected or more challenged by the current circumstances than SA Rugby,” said Alexander. “However, with the support of our government and good planning we can navigate the pandemic to nonetheless create a most memorable event for players, fans and partners.”

It is not yet known whether international or cross-border travel for supporters will be possible into the country in July. Supporters who have purchased ticket-inclusive packages through Lions Rugby Travel will be notified directly via email with information on the options available.

The Lions remind supporters that all packages purchased through Lions Rugby Travel are protected by the Covid-19 guarantee*. Supporters who have booked packages with official sub agents should contact them directly. For the latest guidance on travelling to South Africa please visit the UK Foreign Office website: https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/south-africa or the Irish Department of Foreign Affairs website: https://www.dfa.ie/travel/travel-advice/a-z-list-of-countries/south-africa/

At this time, it also remains unclear whether spectators will be permitted into stadia in July and August. SA Rugby and the Lions continue to work with relevant South African Government departments to ascertain the latest guidance on COVID-19 countermeasure planning for major sporting events and will communicate any updates as soon as it is possible to do so.

In the event that spectators are not permitted to gain access to the Test matches, Lions supporters who had successfully purchased Test match tickets via the Lions ticket ballot will be refunded.

The British & Irish Lions Test match against Japan at BT Murrayfield Stadium on Saturday 26 June 2021 for the Vodafone Lions 1888 Cup will continue as scheduled. However, a decision on crowd size will be made nearer the time of the event and in line with the latest Government guidance. For more information, including ticketing enquiries, please visit:

The British & Irish Lions have toured South Africa on 13 previous occasions, with the first Tour taking place in 1891. In that time, the Lions have won four Test series, lost eight with one drawn. Their overall record against the Springboks is played 46, won 17, lost 23 and drawn six.

*For more information please visit www.lionstour.com
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Originally posted by Donnyknightfan Donnyknightfan wrote:

I’m all for the tour going ahead in South Africa but if there are no crowds It just spoils it totally for me. It’s just reduced to another soulless sporting event. I’m lucky enough to have been to SA in 2009 and the atmosphere at a Lions test is different to any other rugby occasion, it’s electric. The crowds are a massive part of what makes the Lions so unique. I just feel that this decision has been primarily made for monetary purposes and not for what is in the best interest of the Lions brand. 

The 'monetary purposes' charge makes the game sound grubby, but unfortunately money is a key factor in the pro game, especially now after the ravaging caused by Covid.
 
What would be the 'best interest' decision have been DKF?
  • A straight cancellation or postponement to 2025 might have marginalised the Lions and caused lasting damage
  • Postponement to 2022 - perhaps best option for the Lions, but entirely unrealistic due to RWC and the existing arrangements made by Home Nations countries and the countries hosting them
  • Playing at home - so not really a tour
Money would play a part in any of the three options above...

Personally I think playing at home would have been the least worst option.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Monkey Boy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Mar 2021 at 22:52
There’s no chance of fans from the UK.

It’s the South African variant that the UK government is so worried about being in France so actual South Africa simply isn’t happening
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Originally posted by Monkey Boy Monkey Boy wrote:

There’s no chance of fans from the UK.

It’s the South African variant that the UK government is so worried about being in France so actual South Africa simply isn’t happening

Let's wait and see how things turn out:

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Robb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Apr 2021 at 11:29
Looking good, just a little more patience and hope that the SA Government can make the right choice to allow us to go.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Thatbloke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Apr 2021 at 11:51
I'm not sure allowing fans to travel from the UK would be the "right decision" - in fact it's more likely to be absolutely the wrong one! 
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Originally posted by Thatbloke Thatbloke wrote:

I'm not sure allowing fans to travel from the UK would be the "right decision" - in fact it's more likely to be absolutely the wrong one! 

They could be allowed to go.

Just not to come back. 
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Nothing I have seen suggests it will be away supporters, just supporters.  But I have only seen press reports.  Does anyone know what the SAFRU proposal is?  I would be surprised if they are asking for more than home fans only.
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Originally posted by donnyladinsheffield donnyladinsheffield wrote:

Nothing I have seen suggests it will be away supporters, just supporters.  But I have only seen press reports.  Does anyone know what the SAFRU proposal is?  I would be surprised if they are asking for more than home fans only.

The Lions put out the offer to defer to the supporters today. I'm guessing so they know the numbers who are willing to go so they can tell SA in order to make a decision.
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British and Irish Lions choose Jersey

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WARREN GATLAND has sung Jersey’s praises after naming the Island as his top pick for the British and Irish Lions’ 2021 pre-tour training camp.

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The head coach confirmed his preparation plans for this summer’s series alongside the unveiling of his coaching staff – a decision that is set to bring arguably one of the most high-profile teams in world sport across the Channel for at least ten days in June.

Gatland visited the Island in February to inspect local sports facilities and accommodation, including Strive, the new performance centre and health club which is due to open in St Peter next month. At that stage Jersey was on a shortlist of contenders to act as the squad’s training base, but speculation now appears to have been put to rest.

It is understood that the Lions, who will arrive on or just after 13 June, will fly direct from Jersey to Edinburgh at the end of their stay to play a pre-tour friendly against Japan at Murrayfield.

‘It’s something we hadn’t thought about originally but there was an approach from Jersey and now official confirmation from the government and we’re now definitely looking to go there,’ Gatland said.

‘The gym facility next to the rugby club [Strive] is outstanding and it fits our needs well.

‘We understand we may need to quarantine for a certain amount of time but there’s a potential for almost normality in Jersey in preparation for that first game against Japan, before we go into a pretty secure bubble for South Africa. That’s definitely one of the factors we considered for Jersey.’

It is believed that further talks will take place this week, featuring the Lions’ medical staff and key advisors.

'I, like everyone else, will be doing my bit to ensure we have a safe and secure environment,' Gatland added.

‘We’re hoping before we go on tour to have everyone in the touring party vaccinated. We’re working towards that and we feel it will be important to have that in place.'

Strive director Ben Harvey, who instigated initial discussions between Gatland and the Government of Jersey, says the facility will be well-equipped to help the players fine-tune before the tour – particularly with two of the Tests against the Springboks due to take place at altitude in Johannesburg.

‘It may well be that to get a bit of an advantage the coaches will take them to altitude and our altitude chamber will be able to replicate the sort of work required at that level,’ Harvey explained.

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English may miss out but more Scots on trip hints Gatland

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After announcing his coaches for the South Africa tour, Gatland emphasised the importance of 2021 Six Nations performances in his squad selection.

Gatland said the five coaches had put forward over 50 names for selection.

"There are going to be some quality players who miss out," he said.

Gatland's selection may also be hampered if Premiership Rugby does not agree to release players from English clubs in time for a warm-up Test against Japan at Murrayfield on 26 June - the same day as the league's final.

The New Zealander said there could be "15 or 16 English-based players" considered and "some of them could miss out" when he names his squad in May if they are not released by the league.

Gatland said certain players "have got credit" because of "what they have done in the past", but he stressed that "the Six Nations is the tournament you have got to perform in".
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