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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Robb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Mar 2021 at 15:56
Leicester Lions? Oh wait, that's already been taken.

Either Tigers are trying to make some Saffas EQPs or the Saffas are coming over because of the discriminatory quota system in SA.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pappashanga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Mar 2021 at 16:47
I think the Saffas are lured by the money. The discriminatory bit is not significant in rugby. I don't want to extend this discussion as we may all get into trouble.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rabbie Burns Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Mar 2021 at 18:17
I think you may find that there are or certainly were quotas in SA rugby. I am not sure if that is still the case in modern society 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pappashanga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Mar 2021 at 22:17
Several of the SA players playing overseas are ones who would 'benefit' from a quota system, e.g. de Jongh and Kolbe. Obviously they have had no need of such a system as they're both players who would make most teams on merit. Likewise Tendai Mtawarira who has gone to play in the USA.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote front5 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2021 at 21:59
Originally posted by PiffPaff PiffPaff wrote:

front5 do you work for a media organisation?

Quite sure the intent of the original post is to point out that more and more Squads in the Premiership are now having an influx of non-English qualified players. It has nothing to do with race/ethnicity or in indeed gender because that's where all this is heading if you think someone pointing out the fact the Team A now has X number of non-EQP will lead to any form of discrimination. In fact to expand on your point, why aren't any Transgender players in the Prem, or women, or unicorns?

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If it had no reference to origin why raise the number of players from South Africa? 

No I do not work for the media, however feel very strongly about equality 

The Gallagher Premiership is an English professional rugby union competition. The Premiership consists of twelve clubs, and is the top division of the English rugby union system.

The clues being the word English, the more non-English players involved can only make the game in England weaker further down the line. Now remember we voted on whether we wanted to stay in the European Union, turns out we didn't so we've stopped being "European" and become full fledged "British" again which means our laws (the employment ones) don't allow non-Brits too much leeway in the way of work. Therefore these numbers of non-EQPs will start to decrease as the likelihood is they won't get visas to work a professional rugby players. If that is discrimination then go and complain to your local MP because it will be a law that will be enforced. All those SA players who came over here with the Kolpak ruling no longer can, therefore lots of journeymen players will not have the freedom of movement they use to have, that is not discrimination its a fact. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Richard Lowther Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Mar 2021 at 10:15
Sorry Front5 you may wish to edit your post to clarify what you mean as I don't understand it and I am sure I am not the only one. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote IonMan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Mar 2021 at 12:25
The only way it is going to reduce is if the RFU take the sensible decision to reduce their payments to premiership clubs by several thousand pounds for each overseas player in each match they appear in. Why should the RFU fund overseas players? Would love to see this but probably a dream!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Raider999 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Mar 2021 at 13:27
Originally posted by IonMan IonMan wrote:

The only way it is going to reduce is if the RFU take the sensible decision to reduce their payments to premiership clubs by several thousand pounds for each overseas player in each match they appear in. Why should the RFU fund overseas players? Would love to see this but probably a dream!


Best suggestion I have heard in years - however the RFU haven't got the balls to do that.
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