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Originally posted by Moseley Mauler Moseley Mauler wrote:

This all smacks of the Championship looking after themselves. In a nutshell a Championship club goes mountain pepper up and those in National One take the hit in being a home fixture short. And yes, I know it is in accordance with the regs...
 

Hang on the discussion seems to be between the RFU and the NCA , the Championship clubs are sitting here waiting for someone to tell them what's going on . As with everyone else they cannot publish a fixture list which means they cannot sell the sponsorship for match days as some companies will want their favourite opposition its a complete !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sidelined Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Jun 2019 at 15:22
Originally posted by JonDee JonDee wrote:

Originally posted by Moseley Mauler Moseley Mauler wrote:

This all smacks of the Championship looking after themselves. In a nutshell a Championship club goes mountain pepper up and those in National One take the hit in being a home fixture short. And yes, I know it is in accordance with the regs...
 

Hang on the discussion seems to be between the RFU and the NCA , the Championship clubs are sitting here waiting for someone to tell them what's going on . As with everyone else they cannot publish a fixture list which means they cannot sell the sponsorship for match days as some companies will want their favourite opposition its a complete !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.



And to make matters worse Nat 1 & 2 fixtures were published 3 weeks ago, and, presumably, those clubs will have filled the sponsorship for all of their home games. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Jun 2019 at 16:00
Most clubs have someone who follows rolling maul, so should know the Richmond fixture is potentially off.
Not that that helps if you have to them first up. 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote knightandday Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Jun 2019 at 16:23
Originally posted by Moseley Mauler Moseley Mauler wrote:

This all smacks of the Championship looking after themselves. In a nutshell a Championship club goes mountain pepper up and those in National One take the hit in being a home fixture short. And yes, I know it is in accordance with the regs...


What a load of tosh. This has been in the regulations since the Championship was set up and it’s RFU looking after the “Professional “ game it set up and insisted upon.

The Championship clubs are sat waiting to see what happens, just like the rest of the pyramid.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sid James Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Jun 2019 at 18:07
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

Most clubs have someone who follows rolling maul, so should know the Richmond fixture is potentially off.
Not that that helps if you have to them first up. 



We have Richmond at home in September and the match sponsors are already sorted.
I appreciate the comments of the Forum posters but we cannot act on speculation. We will simply have to wait for confirmation of the facts from the RFU before we contact our match sponsors etc. I dont see that we can do anything else.
Thankfully, our possible problems are nothing compared to Richmond's.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pappashanga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Jun 2019 at 20:01
I dare say Richmond will manage. If they’re likely to stay in the Championship some of the leavers may well change their minds and it will be easier to attract ambitious new players. They have a large core of the Championship team left.
Also the club is already geared to all the extra bureaucracy involved in the Championship which is considerable.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Robb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Jun 2019 at 20:34
Originally posted by Pappashanga Pappashanga wrote:

I dare say Richmond will manage. If they’re likely to stay in the Championship some of the leavers may well change their minds and it will be easier to attract ambitious new players. They have a large core of the Championship team left.
Also the club is already geared to all the extra bureaucracy involved in the Championship which is considerable.

Indeed. How many semi-pro Nat 1 clubs are looking for a paid marketing and communications manager?
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Yes the job description is daunting.
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I think their priority might be finding some props to replace the two Dream Team players who moved on!
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I expect they needed them anyway so will have been looking for a while.
The two departing young props developed into excellent props at Richmond. The previous season they spent mostly on the bench. That is an incentive for more ambitious young players.
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Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

It might not be an offer, it might be a requirement.
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e RFU Board of Directors may, in its absolute discretion and
subject to such terms as it may decide, require that: 
a) a Club which would otherwise play in the Championship play in the
Premiership; and/or 
b) a Club which would otherwise play in Level 3 play in the
Championship


I was always under the impression that clubs who are eligible for promotion are actually invited to take up their place and could decline if they wanted. When Richmond won Nat 1 they canvassed their whole squad to ascertain who would be willing to carry on at the higher level and they unanimously voted to proceed into the Championship. Am I wrong ?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pappashanga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Jun 2019 at 22:47
They did vote to move up but I have no idea whether they could have refused. I can’t see them refusing this time. If the first few matches are cup ones this would be ideal for absorbing new players.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pappashanga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Jun 2019 at 22:49
With regard to OEs, if they were to be offered promotion, which looks very unlikely, the administrative side of it would be very difficult for them at this late stage.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Member728 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Jun 2019 at 07:35
Believe or not WR they were not ,Richmond ask if they could decline 
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The regulations on declining promotion are
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(b) A Club is permitted to submit an application to the Organising Committee to request an exemption from promotion subject to the following conditions: 
(i) such request is received by the Organising Committee no later than the 31 December of the Season; and RFU REGULATION 13 – ADULT COMPETITIONS 8 Effective from 1 August 2018 
(ii) this right to submit a request is only available to each Club once at each level of the Leagues; and 
(iii) the Club must demonstrate that promotion would be detrimental to the finances and infrastructure of the Club;
 

But that does not really apply.
Richmond were financially sound. 
It is only the fact that they have had to let players go that makes it impossible to go back up.
Had this been resolved earlier, Richmond could have planned properly.
But that might have meant being honest about Leeds finances, and obviously Ruby needs a strong side in Yorkshire and it has to be Leeds as that was the club the blazers used to play.
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Thanks gents for clearing all that up for me. Silly me should have realised the RFU still works in mysterious ways.
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Brizzer says that Leeds have 'great fans'. While I am sure that is true, like every other Championship club, not nearly enough of them to meet their outgoings.
The Championship is broken.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JonDee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Jun 2019 at 09:34
Originally posted by greeneyed greeneyed wrote:

Brizzer says that Leeds have 'great fans'. While I am sure that is true, like every other Championship club, not nearly enough of them to meet their outgoings.
The Championship is broken.
 
It has been since the day the RFU set it up with a great fanfare and no support which just about sums up the RFU 
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