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Originally posted by Runitback Runitback wrote:


Islander I apologise if I have my facts wrong about ownership of your ground, but I was of the opinion that it has been bought by private individuals and JR play their FOC but currently without full ownership?


tried to explain this before, will have another stab...

Your facts/opinion above would have been an accurate summary of the position from Nov 2016 to Feb 2018, at which point the club bought back the ground (see link)...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 15:13
I think it is more due to the lack of new glamour teams to play leading to a drop off from the uncommitted locals.

The first time you play a side will always draw in a few new faces - but if you see Bristol, Welsh or Irish  a second or third time you do not have a carrot to draw in new followers.

And unlike other clubs, they cannot really attract fans from further afield - they really are limited to the population of Jersey.  With only 100,000 on the island getting 2,000 to attend rugby is good going
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote OldNick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 15:16
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

I think it is more due to the lack of new glamour teams to play leading to a drop off from the uncommitted locals. 

Hey Camquin - I know you've seen Coventry! Plenty of glamour there!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 18:05
But they played you in 11/12 winning 29-3. 
So you are not a new club.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Westcoaster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 22:03
Its sad but true that we sometimes had crowds of between 2000 and 3000 back in our Nat 1 days. 
IIRC, Rosslyn Park was one of the largest crowds at about 3300. and that coincided with an extended run of success up the Leagues. And was in support of a Jersey team which was largely amateur with only a couple of pros initially.  After a few tough seasons in the Championship, and surely with a higher quality of rugby, fitness and skills on show,  crowds have dropped off. Even recently against Premiership opposition, e.g. Bristol, Worcester, London Irish ,'Quins and Leicester, crowds have only been 2,000 or so. So its not the degree of glamour the opposition bring. The season is going well atm but will the crowds come back in full in the New Year ? I'm not sure. One difference from say 6 years ago is that there are no longer any islanders playing for the Reds.  Well plenty South sea islanders but no Jerseymen.Wink Is that a factor in the lesser numbers ?  A stop start season doesn't help, nor does having a League of only 12 teams. Neither of these generates a home game every fortnight during a season which is what we had in Nat 1 when the crowds were better. Nat 1 seems to be going well at present with 30 regular games a season, are you getting this, RFU ?
With the money issue, members were put fully in the picture at a recent private members' evening. Suffice it to say that an annual deficit has been clearly identified and steps are being taken to minimise and manage it. That surely is a positive for a Club. If the Island's government chooses to support the Reds with a handout. I'm one member who is pleased. The island gets a massive return on that investment from the Reds, the only professional team here in a vibrant and keen sporting environment
Come on Jersey........
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Is Jersey's issue that they have started to move a little away from the rolling maul being their only attacking threat and are now playing a more expansive game.  Perhaps the Jersey folk are no longer enjoying the style of play they are being treated to.
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Originally posted by The Blues The Blues wrote:

Is Jersey's issue that they have started to move a little away from the rolling maul being their only attacking threat and are now playing a more expansive game.  Perhaps the Jersey folk are no longer enjoying the style of play they are being treated to.

That'll be it TB
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Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

The club's financial difficulties have been well reported in the past KB and there is clearly no embarrassment or secret about this as there is a related article on their own website:
As a tax payer in Jersey for over 40 years imo its well short of the daftest thing the Island's government has done over the years - the Island must have covered that expense easily when Irish, Blues, Pirates or Donny visited for matches at St Peter by tax on the extra revenue in local hotels & restaurants (not to mention bars). I try to reciprocate when visiting Donny by acquiring extra pie for the train journey down to Gatwick.

I always thought they didn't do this whole tax lark in Jersey!
Sorry to disappoint the whingers out there but we in Jersey are taxed and the biggest is getting in/off and getting stuff in / out. This is not Government subsidy: it is well earned sponsorship. Where are the BIG name signings etc. Give credit where due for astute recruitment and to date incredible coaching and bonding.
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Originally posted by The Blues The Blues wrote:

Is Jersey's issue that they have started to move a little away from the rolling maul being their only attacking threat and are now playing a more expansive game.  Perhaps the Jersey folk are no longer enjoying the style of play they are being treated to.
I hope this was tongue in cheek The Blues. Otherwise, had you seen most of Jerseys games this season I think you'd be eating your words. 
 


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Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

An opportunity for the cats to sharpen their claws - it would seem.

I think the topic is about Jersey and their current situation. Perhaps we should just wish them well, hope that they resolve their current situation and leave it at that......

Thanks CPK for your clarity of thought and sporting instincts.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KnightsBoy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Dec 2018 at 19:37
Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

An opportunity for the cats to sharpen their claws - it would seem.

I think the topic is about Jersey and their current situation. Perhaps we should just wish them well, hope that they resolve their current situation and leave it at that......


Well said. Timing is everything.
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Originally posted by The Blues The Blues wrote:

Is Jersey's issue that they have started to move a little away from the rolling maul being their only attacking threat and are now playing a more expansive game.  Perhaps the Jersey folk are no longer enjoying the style of play they are being treated to.


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