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    Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 14:17
Assuming of course that the Lions tour goes ahead:

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MikeGC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 15:05
I'm prepared to be surprised if the tour goes ahead.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Itoje appointed as captain.
I think he’s 26, and Johnson was 27 when he captained the Lions in Australia
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bigmal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 15:17
Can't see it being on Mike - all bad news for the game at the moment.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Robb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 18:59
Why not? Assuming Gatland can get over his love affair with AWJ, would be an interesting choice to have Itoje as captain. I can certainly see him adapting to that mould.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote WEvans Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jan 2021 at 15:04
If it goes ahead I would rather see someone with a lot more integrity than Itoje leading the team.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Thatbloke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jan 2021 at 15:17
Not yet a "born leader" in my opinion. With Gatland in charge I think deep down we all know who it will be
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Raider999 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jan 2021 at 17:37
Originally posted by Thatbloke Thatbloke wrote:

Not yet a "born leader" in my opinion. With Gatland in charge I think deep down we all know who it will be


I assume you mean Wyn-Jones - most would have Ryan and Itoje as the 2nd row so he wouldn't get in - you need to be nailed on 1st teamed to be captain.

But I suspect Gatland will still be picking him in 10 years time.
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Anyone but Farrell! 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Raider999 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jan 2021 at 22:28
Originally posted by Richard Lowther Richard Lowther wrote:

Anyone but Farrell! 


Well almost anyone.

Itoje is a vary intelligent player, who leads by example.

He also captained a successful England U-20 team.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote castleparknight Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jan 2021 at 11:17
Did Itoje not once captain the England Team too - not sure if it was a full blown international but I seem to recall seeing him do it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote No 7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jan 2021 at 18:24
I really dislike the jumping up and down and whooping at any turn over or mistake by the opposition. This is very much a Saracen thing but not for a captain of any team. He also has a high penalty count by that is primarily due to how competitive he is . He can certainly lead by example but stop the yelling and antics.
Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Raider999 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jan 2021 at 20:10
Originally posted by No 7 No 7 wrote:

I really dislike the jumping up and down and whooping at any turn over or mistake by the opposition. This is very much a Saracen thing but not for a captain of any team. He also has a high penalty count by that is primarily due to how competitive he is . He can certainly lead by example but stop the yelling and antics.


A bit unfair to say this is a Saracen thing - they are but one of many sides who employ these tactics.

Other things that annoy me are

Standing on the mark to take a penalty then running 3 or 4 paces befor kicking it.

Players sarcastically patting opponents on the head when they do something wrong

Players yards offside at kick-offs
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bunkermentality Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jan 2021 at 15:31
Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

  
Other things that annoy me are

Standing on the mark to take a penalty then running 3 or 4 paces befor kicking it.

Players sarcastically patting opponents on the head when they do something wrong

Players yards offside at kick-offs

That's a good start. Add 

Throwing the ball away or up-your-jumper shenanigans when free kick/penalty awarded.
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Originally posted by Bunkermentality Bunkermentality wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

  
Other things that annoy me are

Standing on the mark to take a penalty then running 3 or 4 paces befor kicking it.

Players sarcastically patting opponents on the head when they do something wrong

Players yards offside at kick-offs


That's a good start. Add 

Throwing the ball away or up-your-jumper shenanigans when free kick/penalty awarded.


Hookers standing with heels on the line when they throw in, but moving infield as they throw.

Scrum halves putting ball into 2nd row at scrums - might as well throw it straight to the number 10.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Stoatgobbler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Mar 2021 at 13:32
Another game another bunch of penalties given away by him.
14 penalties against England, 5 of them by him.
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