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    Posted: 21 Feb 2020 at 19:01
1. Reduce Payments to the Premiership.
2. Reduce England team budget
The RFU only paid for 21 flights for a 20 player squad to go to Guernsey when at Level 4.  How many travel with the England team?  Yet it's still 15 v 15 on the field, same game.
3. Don't all drive around in sodding great Mitsubishi trucks.  Save the planet at the same time.
4. Don't waste any more money on Twickers.
5. Cut RDO's.  What do they do?  Only ever see ours at a meeting where he spouts Twickers claptrap.
No idea how a rugby club is run as he's never had to run one!
6. Employ one person with IT skills to sort the website and GMS, that's all it needs.  Don't base them at Twickers so you don't pay London wages.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Raider999 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Feb 2020 at 19:46
Originally posted by Redted Redted wrote:

1. Reduce Payments to the Premiership.
2. Reduce England team budget
The RFU only paid for 21 flights for a 20 player squad to go to Guernsey when at Level 4.  How many travel with the England team?  Yet it's still 15 v 15 on the field, same game.
3. Don't all drive around in sodding great Mitsubishi trucks.  Save the planet at the same time.
4. Don't waste any more money on Twickers.
5. Cut RDO's.  What do they do?  Only ever see ours at a meeting where he spouts Twickers claptrap.
No idea how a rugby club is run as he's never had to run one!
6. Employ one person with IT skills to sort the website and GMS, that's all it needs.  Don't base them at Twickers so you don't pay London wages.

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Cut the number of reps on the board and cut their freebies
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Clive Norling Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Feb 2020 at 21:24
Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Redted Redted wrote:

1. Reduce Payments to the Premiership.
2. Reduce England team budget
The RFU only paid for 21 flights for a 20 player squad to go to Guernsey when at Level 4.  How many travel with the England team?  Yet it's still 15 v 15 on the field, same game.
3. Don't all drive around in sodding great Mitsubishi trucks.  Save the planet at the same time.
4. Don't waste any more money on Twickers.
5. Cut RDO's.  What do they do?  Only ever see ours at a meeting where he spouts Twickers claptrap.
No idea how a rugby club is run as he's never had to run one!
6. Employ one person with IT skills to sort the website and GMS, that's all it needs.  Don't base them at Twickers so you don't pay London wages.

Over to you!


You forgot

Cut the number of reps on the board and cut their freebies


Least of the problems I would say ...... two biggest points for me

1) Extortionate salaries of the top people i.e. Ian Ritchie was on £750,000, you can bet Bill Sweeney is on something similar, that for running a company that has no competitor, how much pressure can there be to run a company that has a monopoly?

2) Funding to PRL, obscene ....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Raider999 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Feb 2020 at 12:50
Originally posted by Clive Norling Clive Norling wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Redted Redted wrote:

1. Reduce Payments to the Premiership.
2. Reduce England team budget
The RFU only paid for 21 flights for a 20 player squad to go to Guernsey when at Level 4.  How many travel with the England team?  Yet it's still 15 v 15 on the field, same game.
3. Don't all drive around in sodding great Mitsubishi trucks.  Save the planet at the same time.
4. Don't waste any more money on Twickers.
5. Cut RDO's.  What do they do?  Only ever see ours at a meeting where he spouts Twickers claptrap.
No idea how a rugby club is run as he's never had to run one!
6. Employ one person with IT skills to sort the website and GMS, that's all it needs.  Don't base them at Twickers so you don't pay London wages.

Over to you!


You forgot

Cut the number of reps on the board and cut their freebies


Least of the problems I would say ...... two biggest points for me

1) Extortionate salaries of the top people i.e. Ian Ritchie was on £750,000, you can bet Bill Sweeney is on something similar, that for running a company that has no competitor, how much pressure can there be to run a company that has a monopoly?

2) Funding to PRL, obscene ....


Agreed Clive, however there is something wrong when the governing body is on a gravy train of benefits when grass roots rugby is being decimated.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Runitback Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Feb 2020 at 15:40
Spot on Clive . . . and stop funding premiership
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Albert Fishwick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Feb 2020 at 16:16
They could increase the price of tickets for internationals. They are far too reasonably priced at the moment.
That's easy for you to say.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Runitback Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Feb 2020 at 16:19
Not sure if you are being ironic AF, but I just went to book Lion King at £254 per ticket!!!!
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Oh and another thing ....

Reduce the appearance money for Test matches, last I heard it was £16k per player, whether you got on the pitch or not ...

So that's £368k per game, reduce it by 50% and that would save £1.5 million a season on a normal 8 game season, 6N + AI's .....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MikeGC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Feb 2020 at 09:57
Stop the blazerati travelling to away games first class and staying at 5 star hotels
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Clive Norling Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Feb 2020 at 10:18
Originally posted by MikeGC MikeGC wrote:

Stop the blazerati travelling to away games first class and staying at 5 star hotels


Spot on as well, there are a lot of easy savings to be made but then we're asking turkeys to vote for Xmas ....
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Originally posted by Albert Fishwick Albert Fishwick wrote:

They could increase the price of tickets for internationals. They are far too reasonably priced at the moment.


Normal price is above £1 per minute - has to be near the top people will pay, bearing in mind that a lot of that time the ball isn't in play.
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Have a look at the disciplinary panel members on the Governance pages They are loads of them and an awful lot of QC's who dont get out if bed for less than £800 per hour

Why on earth do they need that many people at that kind of pay level and why QC's 
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Use the hot air generated by some of the self proclaimed experts on here to supply free electricity to every club in the land and still have a substantial reserve left to sell on to the market. 
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I am not one to blast the blazers (or the poor old RDOs). I imagine most of them have put a lot of time, effort and their own expense into the game over the years and if they get a few perks here and there, it is a drop in the ocean compared to what the RFU give to 13 clubs. That is where the real savings come from. 

As Jeff Probyn said in the Rugby Paper the RFU don't need to play the Premiership clubs anything, but still have the right to players for games. As he pointed out (and supports the view I have expressed here and elsewhere) players need International rugby to boost their worth (and wealth) at club level and with commercial sponsors. 

The sheer amount of money the RFU pays the Premiership clubs for access to about 50 players each season does not make commercial sense. If the RFU really care about the commercial value of the game, then they should show it by reducing the amount of money paid to the Premiership clubs at the earliest possible opportunity.  

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Originally posted by 373 373 wrote:

Use the hot air generated by some of the self proclaimed experts on here to supply free electricity to every club in the land and still have a substantial reserve left to sell on to the market. 
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Originally posted by 373 373 wrote:

Use the hot air generated by some of the self proclaimed experts on here to supply free electricity to every club in the land and still have a substantial reserve left to sell on to the market. 


Fact 1; The RFU pay PRL far to much money
Fact 2; The average wage at the RFU is ridiculously high
Fact 3; England players get paid far to much i.e. £16,000 for playing 80 minutes ... and then some of them sell their ticket allocation on the black market at outrageous prices i.e. 4 times face value!

Now, I'm no expert but I just point out where the RFU are paying extortionate money to the Elite game and keep telling the community game there is nothing left in the cupboard to pay them ..... if facts are hot air, then I plead guilty
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Originally posted by Richard Lowther Richard Lowther wrote:

I am not one to blast the blazers (or the poor old RDOs). I imagine most of them have put a lot of time, effort and their own expense into the game over the years and if they get a few perks here and there, it is a drop in the ocean compared to what the RFU give to 13 clubs. That is where the real savings come from. 

As Jeff Probyn said in the Rugby Paper the RFU don't need to play the Premiership clubs anything, but still have the right to players for games. As he pointed out (and supports the view I have expressed here and elsewhere) players need International rugby to boost their worth (and wealth) at club level and with commercial sponsors. 

The sheer amount of money the RFU pays the Premiership clubs for access to about 50 players each season does not make commercial sense. If the RFU really care about the commercial value of the game, then they should show it by reducing the amount of money paid to the Premiership clubs at the earliest possible opportunity.  



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