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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kimbo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Feb 2019 at 12:24
Anyway, getting back on track, one of our regulars has written an open letter to Billy Beaumont and co.

https://markdieselforster.wordpress.com/2019/02/09/boulevard-of-broken-dreams/

Tweet away, if you so wish.
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QUOTE Kimbo.......Why would the club or the architect or the developer release actual planning material before it goes to CCC for planning consideration?

It is customary to hold a pre app meeting with the planning offices to discuss a proposal. You pay a fee for the privilege of showing the local planning authority your proposal and outline building plans. This gives them the opportunity to say if they are in agreement ( subject to planning final consent ). Council planning of this nature needs to tick several box`s . Enhancement of the area , community considerations, noise , social housing, amenities , traffic considerations the list is endless.

This subject of new seating and new Rugby ground development is paramount to making it to the Premiership. I believe Cornish Pirates, Bedford and Coventry all have the potential to make it work. This is why they can not allow ring fencing in my opinion.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Richard Lowther Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Feb 2019 at 21:59
Originally posted by Peter_B Peter_B wrote:

So none of these have been built or in some cases got planning consent? Bear in mind that one Premiership club plays at a 2nd Division Rugby League ground.

And one Premiership club plays at a 2nd Division Football ground...

Should we exclude them from the Premiership on that criteria?



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How loud is a Rugby crowd ? Newcastle Falcons were recorded at 118.5 decibels 
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Who's aiming to be promoted in 2020?

Yks Carn are definitely aiming to give it a crack next season... assuming that the Championship winners will gain promotion in 14 months time...


And probably there'll be others going all out to finish top, in case the drawbridge is pulled up thereafter...
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Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Who's aiming to be promoted in 2020?

Yks Carn are definitely aiming to give it a crack next season... assuming that the Championship winners will gain promotion in 14 months time...


And probably there'll be others going all out to finish top, in case the drawbridge is pulled up thereafter...

That is when the drawbridge goes up , at the end of next season 2019 /20.
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Originally posted by No 7 No 7 wrote:

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Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Who's aiming to be promoted in 2020?

Yks Carn are definitely aiming to give
it a crack next season... assuming that the Championship winners will gain promotion in 14 months time...


And probably there'll be others going all out to finish top, in case the drawbridge is pulled up thereafter...


That is when the drawbridge goes up , at the end of next season 2019 /20.


Is it, didn't think anything was finally decided - or have I missed that announcement?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KnightsBoy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Feb 2019 at 17:46
I see Northampton have signed another England hopeful one if the Frank's brothers, so much fir development of English talent, why do we have the rfu Academy structure
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote islander Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Feb 2019 at 17:52
Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by No 7 No 7 wrote:

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Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Who's aiming to be promoted in 2020?

Yks Carn are definitely aiming to give
it a crack next season... assuming that the Championship winners will gain promotion in 14 months time...


And probably there'll be others going all out to finish top, in case the drawbridge is pulled up thereafter...


That is when the drawbridge goes up , at the end of next season 2019 /20.


Is it, didn't think anything was finally decided - or have I missed that announcement?


Nothing confirmed...
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As I thought, don't know why No7 says different🤔
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It is when the current agreement ends with the RFU. There are several key pointers to the 'ring fencing 'scenario outcome.

The Premiership partnership with CVC . Their track record in sport is well documented. The clubs within the top half or top two thirds will call for ring fencing to secure their future 'business' status.

The teams in the current relegation battle will certainly want to pull up the draw bridge if they are on the right side of the fence. Bristol management are suddenly over keen to secure their position. The timing is key and when the current RFU / Premiership ends.

Several teams appear to be gearing up for this monumental event. The most obvious and most advanced are the Cornish Pirates but it seems to have stalled on the last hurdle, Money.

Coventry are in my opinion too late on the new stadium but have more than enough space for temporary seating.

Bedford have good crowd numbers for the Championship but are way short for the premiership unless they can muster another ten thousand Bedford rugby union supporters. The Bedford contributors on here seem to have resolved themselves to forever staying at second tier rugby. I am sure the people who actually make the decisions may have other more ambitious plans.
One Bedford supporter stated on here " we all know where it will end" The fact is no one knows.

Yorkshire Carnegie could fabricate a squad next season to compete at the very top. There are all of the other teams including my own who will be making an extra effort to rise to the top of the Championship next season. There will be the relegated team with their parachute payment in the coffers ( so much for a level playing field )

I have no inside information , just my opinion having read the comments in a variety of newspapers ,blogs ,club websites and knowledgeable people at my own club.





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Also there were the slightly mysterious excuses for not combining the Premership Cup and Championship Cups despite the perfect opportunity at the end of last season. The authorities then announce that both cups will be in situ for two seasons, how convenient that it coincides with the end of the current RFU agreement.

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Statement from the Premiership Website.




Vision and Values:

Premiership Rugby’s vision is to be the best and most competitive league in the world.

We have five core values, which we encourage our clubs, stakeholders and partners to share with us.

  • Competitive: We strive to be the best in everything we do and to maximise opportunities, so that our competitions, programmes and people are world-leading.
  • Progressive: We seek out opportunities to innovate and take considered risks. We take pride in our challenger mentality and in testing conventional thinking.
  • Respectful: Our commitment to respect and sporting behaviour extends from the pitch into our business. We use our clubs, their performances, our media channels, and our programmes to inspire and develop the sport’s values with players, coaches, volunteers and fans.
  • Inclusive:  We welcome and celebrate diversity, opinion and teamwork. We strive to make our competitions and activities available and enjoyable to as many people as possible in whatever capacity they wish.
  • Professionally excellent: We set the highest standards for our collective and individual performances and commit to delivering excellence on and off the pitch.

Read more at https://www.premiershiprugby.com/about-us/about-premiership-rugby/#7qvSCAAU2hsRFdrA.99



Core Values .

The stand out statement of intent is:    Our commitment to respect and sporting behaviour extends from the pitch into our business.

Competition :   We strive to be the best in everything we do and to maximise opportunities, so that our competitions, programmes and people are world-leading.

The introduction of a ring fenced Premiership is directly opposed to these statements. There would never be another Exeter Chiefs who are the epitome competitiveness .


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Ring fencing does not support at least 3 of those core values.
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