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Raider999 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 18 Jan 2013 Location: Crawley Status: Offline Points: 1995 |
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Certainly looks to be room for expansion at Coventry - the aerial view shows the potential of the site well, much better than when you are actually there. |
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Kimbo ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 31 May 2007 Location: 'incleh Status: Offline Points: 3409 |
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There are far better schematics available of the mooted expansion of the Butts. Nothing nailed down yet though.
Potentially there's enough room for a fairly big stand opposite the existing one, and more at each end, with apartments built in at the Butts Road end. Discussions with developers are said to be at a fairly advanced stage. |
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Kimbo ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 31 May 2007 Location: 'incleh Status: Offline Points: 3409 |
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This article gives an idea of the planned developments. Couple of schematics included, but it's all under discussion at the moment, and no plans have been lodged.
https://www.pitchcare.com/news-media/coventry-rugby-club.html Edited by Kimbo - 06 Feb 2019 at 10:31 |
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Dave the Dog ![]() Academy player ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Mar 2009 Location: Bedford Status: Offline Points: 28 |
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I think this has been on here before, but this is one proposal for Bedford - creates a 10k capacity and part financed by building flats down two sides.
Now that the old workhouse at the top end has burnt down, there might be more opportunities. The site is council owned (I think) and carries covenants on usage, and it would still require financial backing... |
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Peter_B ![]() First XV regular ![]() Joined: 20 Sep 2014 Location: Bristol Status: Offline Points: 102 |
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So none of these have been built or in some cases got planning consent? Bear in mind that one Premiership club plays at a 2nd Division Rugby League ground.
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islander ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 17 Mar 2010 Location: jersey Status: Offline Points: 4218 |
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Don't know if this was your intention Peter, but this comes across rather as if you're trying to warn off ambitious Championship clubs, a sort of "leave this to us, boys, you're playing with fire" message... It's certainly a tough challenge to get into the Prem and get established, with the necessary facilities, and there are both shining examples (like Exeter) and danger signs (like London Welsh). But should clubs be denied the right to give it their best shot? Of the examples quoted above, I believe Pirates' project has all necessary permissions and should start soon once the final funding hurdle's been cleared. Cov seem to be very active in exploring their options, particularly since they only achieved promotion back to the Championship last year. The Bedford proposal is more of a 'back-burner' one, it seems, but it's their prerogative to bide their time and reserve the right to have a go at some stage in the future when/if they judge the time to be right.
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gerg_861 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Jun 2017 Location: Ealing Status: Offline Points: 432 |
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I would also say that Ealing have building ongoing at the moment to add thousands of additional seats to come up to Super League standards, and the new stands are of impressive size if poor positioning.
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OldNick ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 20 May 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2627 |
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Islander - I read it much the same way.
If people are interestedf in plans for the Coventry development, this interview given by the Coventry chairman, Jon Sharp to the rugby paper is the most recent information available. It's a fairly short piece, but it features one of the architect's impressions which gives a good impression of the style of development.
If you know the site, the impression is drawn from the current chnaging rooms corner, looking towards the Butts Road end of the ground (ie withther railway behind the artist). Keyt to it is the fairly managable sized end stand, withth significant income generating building behind it, on the current front car park. In case you're worried about car parking being lost, there is a decent sized ans outside office hours underused multi storey car park already next door to the ground next to the Land Registry offices at the current turnstile corner of the ground. |
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No 7 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Oct 2011 Location: LONDON Status: Offline Points: 1036 |
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The current positions of the two small stands are both very temporary. The new stand goes between those two.....wait for it !. It will all make sense very soon. |
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Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.
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gerg_861 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Jun 2017 Location: Ealing Status: Offline Points: 432 |
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[/QUOTE]The current positions of the two small stands are both very temporary. The new stand goes between those two.....wait for it !. It will all make sense very soon. [/QUOTE] Ahh...I saw people in the stands for the Broncos game, so I thought that that might actually be the final layout (or that there might be another stand being sandwiched in still).
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SixNineOne ![]() Academy player ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 2019 Location: Dorking Status: Offline Points: 14 |
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Presumably this redevelopment would mean that the pitch gets levelled, which may well be a requirement for the Premiership, but would take away some of the fun of watching matches at Goldington Road!
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Camquin ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Jun 2007 Location: Cambridge Status: Offline Points: 5805 |
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Not only levelled but rotated 90 degrees so that they can it can be laid out full size with 10m in-goal areas and 5m gap before the boards. Google says the current pitch is slightly smaller at 98m x 68m with 5m in-goal but does not have the 5m space that is desirable.
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No 7 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Oct 2011 Location: LONDON Status: Offline Points: 1036 |
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I have never seen this type of construction with residential so close to a stand of a few thousand people. The noise of such a large crowd so close to residential can not be acceptable in my opinion. The Architects proposals for the Bedford development are far superior and very detailed. These `schematics` are very poor in quality and would never be acceptable in a planning application.
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Eel ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Sep 2009 Location: Ealing Status: Offline Points: 1429 |
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And the colour of the boots on a rugby player is not acceptable EITHER!
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If you're not living on the edge you're taking up too much room
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Kimbo ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 31 May 2007 Location: 'incleh Status: Offline Points: 3409 |
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Well, thanks for your opinion, 7.
Ah, so the people who intend to rent/buy these apartments will obviously be shown round on a non-activity day with the blinds kept firmly shut I guess? That'll fool them. Just like the several hundred who bought/rented the expensive 'over 50s' type apartments that run along the eastern boundary of the site and overlooking the pitch I suppose. I'm sure the extra few yards buffer makes a huge amount of difference to their quality of life.
I'll be sure that the CCC Planning people are kept fully appraised of your concerns when the 'actual' planning application is submitted. |
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Peter_B ![]() First XV regular ![]() Joined: 20 Sep 2014 Location: Bristol Status: Offline Points: 102 |
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So none of these have been built or in some cases got planning consent? Bear in mind that one Premiership club plays at a 2nd Division Rugby League ground.
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Eel ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Sep 2009 Location: Ealing Status: Offline Points: 1429 |
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If you're not living on the edge you're taking up too much room
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No 7 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Oct 2011 Location: LONDON Status: Offline Points: 1036 |
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I have never seen residential that close to a stadium where it is actually integral to the stadium construction .Are there any other examples where this exist ?. You said there are much better `schematics` than I posted, is there a link to these drawings. The aerial view I posted showed the surrounding area. There seemed to be large areas of waste land suitable for residential development away from the new stadium proposal. I have no concerns on the Coventry proposal and only observations and would support any stadium for Rugby Union. |
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Kimbo ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 31 May 2007 Location: 'incleh Status: Offline Points: 3409 |
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The pictures you've referred to have been around for some considerable time, and are merely early sketches to give an impression of what could be done. No more.
Why would the club or the architect or the developer release actual planning material before it goes to CCC for planning consideration? |
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islander ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 17 Mar 2010 Location: jersey Status: Offline Points: 4218 |
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You made the same point at a similar time of day a few days ago, and then declined to respond to the points made in return. So, at the risk of repeating myself... Don't know if this was your intention Peter, but this comes across
rather as if you're trying to warn off ambitious Championship clubs, a
sort of "leave this to us, boys, you're playing with fire" message... It's
certainly a tough challenge to get into the Prem and get established,
with the necessary facilities, and there are both shining examples (like
Exeter) and danger signs (like London Welsh). But should clubs be
denied the right to give it their best shot? |
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