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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kimbo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 13:06
Besides, it's actually held up pretty well this season given there are currently four clubs playing on it. The surface was perfectly acceptable for tbe Richmond game.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 13:07
Having watched the TV coverage of the game at the Rec, it is obviously good enough for premiership use. I also believe they have a plan to install a new artificial or hybrid suface.

If Ampthill does nto meet Championship standard, I assume OEs don't.
OEs would presumably have to ground share, I seem to recall someing suggesting they may look at Rectory Field (but that could have been a wind up)

I have no idea how close the facilities at the Rock or the Plesance are - I assume they would need the same sort of audit and improvement as Cov underwent.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Moseley Mauler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 13:27
What about enabling disabled and/or elderly visitors to watch the game? Impossible at Ampthill. Not good enough and something must be done - even if they aren't promoted
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote OldNick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 13:48
Originally posted by ruckinspector ruckinspector wrote:

Why did Coventry not spend some of their money on their pitch? Sadly it is simply not up to Championship standard.

There is no Championship standard. There are however legal requirements when accepting  the publivc to watch matches. 
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Originally posted by Moseley Mauler Moseley Mauler wrote:

What about enabling disabled and/or elderly visitors to watch the game? Impossible at Ampthill. Not good enough and something must be done - even if they aren't promoted

Another legal requirement. I think Ampthill would say that they comply by allowing cars carrying disabled customers to enter via the rear gate and watch from their vehicle from the top of the bank. They however cannot visit the clubhouse.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rabbie Burns Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 13:56
If all else fails and the top 3 lose a couple of games and we win ours Blackheath have 2 championship grounds in Well Hall and Rectory Field easy Peasy 😂
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote corporalcarrot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 14:09
Originally posted by OldNick OldNick wrote:

Originally posted by Moseley Mauler Moseley Mauler wrote:

What about enabling disabled and/or elderly visitors to watch the game? Impossible at Ampthill. Not good enough and something must be done - even if they aren't promoted

Another legal requirement. I think Ampthill would say that they comply by allowing cars carrying disabled customers to enter via the rear gate and watch from their vehicle from the top of the bank. They however cannot visit the clubhouse.
Disabled access and toilet facilities etc should certainly comply with proper standards but with good will, money & commitment most problems like this have a practical solution. If Amptil or OEs should win N1 on merit I hope they are given a fair chance to sort out any practical issues or find an alternative ground and compete in the Championship - both have visited St Peter in the past and given a great account of themselves.
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From a disability Discrimination Act (i know it has been superceeded now but easier for people to understand as a name)

You do need to make "reasonable adjustments" to allow in disabled persons - what is reasonable is up to interpretation - it could mean laying some temporary plastic hardstanding and providing a disabled portaloo plus ferrying anyone needing access on a buggy from the clubhouse - that could be seen as "reasonable" whilst forcing them to install a roadway through an SSI would most definately not be seen as a reasonable requirement
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KnightsBoy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 17:01
Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

Originally posted by OldNick OldNick wrote:

Originally posted by Moseley Mauler Moseley Mauler wrote:

What about enabling disabled and/or elderly visitors to watch the game? Impossible at Ampthill. Not good enough and something must be done - even if they aren't promoted


Another legal requirement. I think Ampthill would say that they comply by allowing cars carrying disabled customers to enter via the rear gate and watch from their vehicle from the top of the bank. They however cannot visit the clubhouse.
Disabled access and toilet facilities etc should certainly comply with proper standards but with good will, money & commitment most problems like this have a practical solution. If Amptil or OEs should win N1 on merit I hope they are given a fair chance to sort out any practical issues or find an alternative ground and compete in the Championship - both have visited St Peter in the past and given a great account of themselves.


You can hire toilet blocks/Porta cabins with disabled access, so it shouldnt be an issue.

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I suppose it's inevitable that potential newcomers to any arena will be viewed with suspicion and hostility in some quarters by those who are an established part of said arena. I think that's a pity. Ampthill are favourites as a result of Saturday's win - I've not been there, although we (Jersey) have played them at home and on neutral ground ('HQ'); DoR Paul Turner is a regular visitor to Jersey as his son Tommy lives here and used to play for Jersey 1sts - he still turns out for the 2s occasionally; it sounds like they have quite a different set-up, but as long as certain minimum standards can be satisfied, I'd hope they will provide a welcome point of difference.

Some other recently-promoted clubs may also have been viewed as 'abnormal' for various reasons, Jersey and Hartpury to name two, but a league can be a broad church, can't it, rather than all the clubs and grounds being the same? Hopefully all clubs bring something to the party, and can be treated with respect, even if it's inevitable that supporters may develop a 'pecking order' of their favourites and least favourites.

As mentioned, I imagine those clubs in with a shout of promotion will have given the matter some thought, although it's still a big jump, there's no doubt about that.

Whoever makes it I look forward to welcoming them to the Championship next season.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brizzer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 18:43
Very true Islander.
I remember when we came up we had a small stand which holds approx. 250 seats (it's still there), no other cover around the ground and a small muddy bank lined with trees behind 1 of the goals.

Now look at us, we have a Stade   
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kimbo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 18:45
Ah, there's the solution.
The Stade Fairy Dell has a ring to it.
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Originally posted by ruckinspector ruckinspector wrote:

Why did Coventry not spend some of their money on their pitch? Sadly it is simply not up to Championship standard.


Sadly we went and got ourselves promoted a year ahead of schedule, hence us not having our new pitch ready in time for the expansive style of rugby played in the Championship...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kimbo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 23:33
And that, as Rob succinctly puts it, is that.

(Except that I don't agree with the 'sadly' bit. ).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RobC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Mar 2019 at 07:03
Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

And that, as Rob succinctly puts it, is that.

(Except that I don't agree with the 'sadly' bit. ).


There was a couple of bits of irony in my post Kimbo.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kimbo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Mar 2019 at 08:33
Oh, I noticed the second one too Rob. Hard to miss. 😁
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Yes the Championship has much in common with medieval battles.Only they didn’t have HIAs.
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I have to say that while I miss visiting some of the Championship clubs, I really don't miss the Championship... There's something wrong there, where tier 1's a de facto closed shop, tier 3 is a lot of fun where you can throw the ball around and play expansive rugby (although we haven't had much fun this season....), and tier 2 is a weird no man's land that has the advantages of neither above nor below and a mickey mouse cup thrown in. 

While I'd love Mose to be playing at the highest level possible, if there was a way of becoming the Bedford of National 1 and just sitting top half year after year I reckon that would be preferable to being the Bedford of the Championship. At least we'd have a league game every Saturday.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rob C Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Mar 2019 at 10:33
Originally posted by billesleyexile billesleyexile wrote:

I have to say that while I miss visiting some of the Championship clubs, I really don't miss the Championship... There's something wrong there, where tier 1's a de facto closed shop, tier 3 is a lot of fun where you can throw the ball around and play expansive rugby (although we haven't had much fun this season....), and tier 2 is a weird no man's land that has the advantages of neither above nor below and a mickey mouse cup thrown in. 

While I'd love Mose to be playing at the highest level possible, if there was a way of becoming the Bedford of National 1 and just sitting top half year after year I reckon that would be preferable to being the Bedford of the Championship. At least we'd have a league game every Saturday.


Championship and fun are two words rarely mentioned in the same sentence.  To be fair we were forewarned but attritional is perhaps the best word for most of the matches I've watched...

Cov tried the style of rugby that won them National League One early in the season but now seem to have resigned themselves to adopting aerial ping pong / bash it up through the middle rugby.  Very disappointing.
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