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    Posted: 24 Feb 2019 at 15:29
It's anticipated that it will be 'normal service' at the end of the season in terms of one team heading down to GKIPAC from the Prem + one up from Nat 1.

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After this weekend's games, Newcastle (17pts) now 9 pts adrift of both Bristol & Worcester (26) with eight games to go. The Falcons host the Warriors next Sunday in an absolute must-win for the home side. Bristol home to Gloucester on Friday

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Amazingly close after the catch-up games yesterday that meant everyone's played 23 games:
  1. Elthamians 86pts
  2. Ampthill 86
  3. Rosslyn Pk 82
  4. Blackheath 78
Lots of key games to come, including Ampthill hosting OE on Mar 9th, and then RP three weeks later.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Blues Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Feb 2019 at 16:03
Watching the Worcester game the commentators said that 25 points has been historically a surviving total.  It looks like Newcastle could be coming back, which is surprising as they did so well last season and look a good squad.  Falcons could do with a  5 - 0 v Warriors.

Ampthill (Tongan retirement home) should be favourites having the home games.  Whoever does come up will need to recruit heavily and will be weaker than Coventry.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rabbie Burns Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Feb 2019 at 17:26
The battle of the chequebooks happens in a couple of weeks when Ampthill host OEs. I think Ampthill will Be to strong for OEs upfront and Ampthill backs are now allowed to have the ball which makes them IMO the most improved team this year. That said given the true of Nat1 this season anyone can be beaten.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brizzer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Feb 2019 at 18:15
If Newcastle come down I will laugh, laugh and then laugh some more. The only down side is that we will no doubt have MS back on the forum (please no).
Still, we have never beaten the Falcons, so hopefully it will be another notch on the giant killer post.
On the up, I would happily welcome any of those sides. All great clubs with bundles of history. I am sure that Bedford are desperate for Amphill to prevail, I think that the league will really benefit from a fiercely fought local derby like this.
Good luck everyone.
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There's still a lot of rugby to be played and If Newcastle can close the gap to less than 5 points they play Bristol at home on the last day of the season.
As Bristol are one of the main instigators of  'ring fencing' then it would be ironic if they were relegated.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Robb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Feb 2019 at 21:16
I hope do Bristol do get relegated for their hypocritical selfish protectionism. Plus for that ridiculous nickname too. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kimbo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Feb 2019 at 08:05
Still hoping for a late Mose surge
Seriously though, we could do with that derby back. Two (or even four) games that bring in serious cash.
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I want Rotherham back - but unlikely this season.
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IMO Falcons, Wuss & Briz are all much stronger than Irish and Ealing. There should always be a price to pay for failure so I still support promotion and relegation instead of ring fencing but any of those clubs would be miles ahead of second place by Christmas. The sad thing is the side that does go up is likely to offload most of the squad that won it for them and recruit a new one. I'd love to see Jersey play Falcons again but a pre-season friendly would be just fine. Good luck to them all.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Feb 2019 at 09:13
National 1 is no respecter of reputation - as Coventry know they had at least one season where they struggled to stay up. It is very hard to claim that one promotion place and with three relegation slots almost too easy to drop down.

And there is alnost no financial support, so the teams reflect the ability of the club to raise funds - which may mean a single deep pocketed backer or many smaller ones.

If Rotherham can keep this squad together and perhaps strengthen - then they will be back close to the top next season. But there will be 15 clubs to beat and no gimme games.
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Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

I hope do Bristol do get relegated for their hypocritical selfish protectionism. Plus for that ridiculous nickname too. 
 

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Not sure that Amps or OE have the infrastructure for the 1,000+ regular crowds they will get. I know Amps are keen to take over the adjoining football pitch and stands but unsure of OE. However, this is rugby, so the purists will be unconcerned as long as a pie and a pint is available during and after the match.
Being a Bedfordshire (Biggleswade) man at heart, go Amps, show them what East Midlands rugby is all about (and keep the funding for infrastructure development, not players)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Feb 2019 at 13:06
I would have thought that any future development on the Ampthill gorund would be on the upper pitches rather than on the mud bath down by the club house.

There were rumours of a supermarket looking to buy the lower pitches which would have funded much redevelopment  - but given the current state of retail, that might have gone away.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Joy of (Level) 7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Feb 2019 at 21:56
If Ampthill were to be promoted how large would the crowds be for the derbies with Bedford? Educated guesswork I know, but what are the rough estimates?
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WHEN Ampthill are promoted,perhaps not quite the 4000+ the Boxing Day game attracted but 3000 should be achievable at Goldington Road, it may pose a problem for the return fixture !! It would certainly exceed last weeks 260. If it does happen then what a steep learning curve, on and off the pitch.
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Heaven forbid promotion for Ampthill. With those facilities !!!!!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kimbo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Mar 2019 at 15:41
At least they have a decent clubhouse.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Raider999 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Mar 2019 at 16:11
Originally posted by cov kid cov kid wrote:


Heaven forbid promotion for Ampthill. With those facilities !!!!!


Never been to Ampthill, but they cannot be much worse than Old Elthamians
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote corporalcarrot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Mar 2019 at 16:19
OE's clubhouse seemed fine when I went there and they had plenty of pitches. A bit of a hike from the railway station but you can say the same about Vallis Way. 
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Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

OE's clubhouse seemed fine when I went there and they had plenty of pitches. A bit of a hike from the railway station but you can say the same about Vallis Way. 
 
How are you getting to Vallis Way CC? The Castlebar Park branchline station is about 50 meters from the West gate?
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