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    Posted: 28 May 2010 at 08:48
I predict that I'll get at least 30% of my predictions wrong, everyone will be gunning for Scots, Wharfedale will be a good place to stay and get tanked up and that the best rugby in the land will be played in ND1!

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No pressure then Wink
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My predictions for 2010/11 are:
 
Scottish will lead the pack in rugby and moaning - referees, other teams being allowed to tackle and score tries, the shape of the ball. You name it, they will have a moan.
 
Wharfedale will have another solid season.
 
Coventry will get a shock.
 
Cinderford will be sussed.
 
Once agin this season, I will not admit to making any mistakes, just be guilty of some errors of judgement !
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Post Options Post Options   Quote High Heidjin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 May 2010 at 10:19
Originally posted by Tea Ticket

My predictions for 2010/11 are:
 
Scottish will lead the pack in rugby and moaning - referees, other teams being allowed to tackle and score tries, the shape of the ball. You name it, they will have a moan.
 
Wharfedale will have another solid season.
 
Coventry will get a shock.
 
Cinderford will be sussed.
 
Once agin this season, I will not admit to making any mistakes, just be guilty of some errors of judgement !
 
TT, thanks for your insight, but where does the comment about 'moaning' come from ?? Or have I missed something ?? Confused
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Post Options Post Options   Quote thomas snr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 May 2010 at 10:32
coventry have got no high expectations of this season with probably only 3 players remaining from this season, so will be a season of consolidation only.
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Originally posted by High Heidjin

Originally posted by Tea Ticket

My predictions for 2010/11 are:
 
Scottish will lead the pack in rugby and moaning - referees, other teams being allowed to tackle and score tries, the shape of the ball. You name it, they will have a moan.
 
Wharfedale will have another solid season.
 
Coventry will get a shock.
 
Cinderford will be sussed.
 
Once agin this season, I will not admit to making any mistakes, just be guilty of some errors of judgement !
 
TT, thanks for your insight, but where does the comment about 'moaning' come from ?? Or have I missed something ?? Confused
What about Judge'n'Jury's comment about Rectory Field being a wee bit wet following a week of torrential rain?
We know it doesn't rain in Scotland or Richmond, but it did sound like a bit of a moan to me.
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I predict that our visit to level three, however long/short, wont be as excrutiating as our previous sojourn. I also predict that this time we wont have a United Nations squad that will bleed the club dry. Once bitten etc....
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Right. Bull by the horns time.
 
Scottish to go up to the championship.
 
Stourbridge, Cinderford & possibly Rosslyn Park for the drop.
 
Otley / Barking / Redruth / Sedgley Park / Macclesfield - mid / bottom half of table
 
Tynedale / Cambridge / Wharfedale / Launceston - mid / top half of table
 
Blaydon / Coventry / Blackheath  somewhere in the also rans.
 
1 London Scottish
2 Tynedale
3 Cambridge
4 Launceston
5 Wharfedale
6 Blackheath
7 Blaydon
8 Coventry
9 Redruth
10 Sedgley Park
11 Otley
12 Macclesfield
13 Barking
14 Rosslyn Park
15 Stourbridge
16 Cinderford
 
Time will tell, but, with the new seasons fixtures now out, I can't wait till the 4th September when it all starts again and makes us predictors, especially myself, look complete numpty's  Confused
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Post Options Post Options   Quote High Heidjin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 May 2010 at 13:37
Originally posted by Longtime

Originally posted by High Heidjin

Originally posted by Tea Ticket

My predictions for 2010/11 are:
 
Scottish will lead the pack in rugby and moaning - referees, other teams being allowed to tackle and score tries, the shape of the ball. You name it, they will have a moan.
 
Wharfedale will have another solid season.
 
Coventry will get a shock.
 
Cinderford will be sussed.
 
Once agin this season, I will not admit to making any mistakes, just be guilty of some errors of judgement !
 
TT, thanks for your insight, but where does the comment about 'moaning' come from ?? Or have I missed something ?? Confused
What about Judge'n'Jury's comment about Rectory Field being a wee bit wet following a week of torrential rain?
We know it doesn't rain in Scotland or Richmond, but it did sound like a bit of a moan to me.
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Not so much of a moan, rather than a statement of fact and it was the same for both sides, as bourne out by the match at Richmond near the end of the season. Very firm and dry pitch. Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Clubber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 May 2010 at 13:55
Blimey..... Season's not due to start for FOURTEEN WEEKS and already we're predicting promotion to the Chumpionship!! (Will it STILL be called that next season, or will it start to have some creases ironed out of the dodgy bits over summer, so that it can start to be called the Championship proper?)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Tea Ticket Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 May 2010 at 15:10
Well Scottish had a good moan when Otley beat them 35-34, scoring twice in the last 5 minutes with14 men and last kick of the game to win in. They went off the rails a bit after that.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Longtime Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 May 2010 at 15:14
Originally posted by High Heidjin[/QUOTE

Not so much of a moan, rather than a statement of fact and it was the same for both sides, as bourne out by the match at Richmond near the end of the season. Very firm and dry pitch. Wink
Not so much of a moan, rather than a statement of fact and it was the same for both sides, as bourne out by the match at Richmond near the end of the season. Very firm and dry pitch. Wink
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No can't agree with you on this one High Heidjin.
I don't think What J'n'J actually said could be described as fair comment or a statement of fact.
Scottish having just managed a win at Rectory Field J'n'J's comment was not that the conditions were the same for both sides, instead he remarked:-
"... if you get the groundsman  to put enough water on your pitch to turn it into something resembling a slurry pit that it's bound to bring anyone down to your level."
Still sounds like a bit of a moan to me. As Janner remarked at the time, was this the first instance of a sore winner?
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Originally posted by Wharfeman

Right. Bull by the horns time.
 
Scottish to go up to the championship.
 
Stourbridge, Cinderford & possibly Rosslyn Park for the drop.
 
Otley / Barking / Redruth / Sedgley Park / Macclesfield - mid / bottom half of table
 
Tynedale / Cambridge / Wharfedale / Launceston - mid / top half of table
 
Blaydon / Coventry / Blackheath  somewhere in the also rans.
 
1 London Scottish
2 Tynedale
3 Cambridge
4 Launceston
5 Wharfedale
6 Blackheath
7 Blaydon
8 Coventry
9 Redruth
10 Sedgley Park
11 Otley
12 Macclesfield
13 Barking
14 Rosslyn Park
15 Stourbridge
16 Cinderford
 
Time will tell, but, with the new seasons fixtures now out, I can't wait till the 4th September when it all starts again and makes us predictors, especially myself, look complete numpty's  Confused
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@ wharfeman, do you know how many of the Otley youth will be moving on?  are Macc recruiting and will this impact on Sedge?

I know its early in the summer, but there's no way that I can see Cinders or Stour being so firmly in the relegation mix, yet alone certainties for the drop.
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Assuming Scottish add a few new faces to their squad they would have to be favorites for the top spot. As for relegation - no idea at all!
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  I thnk all Cornish sides will struggle this year,
  as they have no money most players will be paid peanuts with one ur two players in each side
  getting the lion share of funds available .
  Which will cause many players to look for other ways of boosting their incomes
  Redruth  found last season hard, If they lose players and replace them with players from a lower
  leagues the gates will drop .
  And although Launceston , Had a great season last year, they will also struggle with some big
  names having left We can only hope at the end of next season Cornwall still have representation
  in Div 1 I for one would not put my shirt on it.
 
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Originally posted by champion

@ wharfeman, do you know how many of the Otley youth will be moving on?  are Macc recruiting and will this impact on Sedge?

I know its early in the summer, but there's no way that I can see Cinders or Stour being so firmly in the relegation mix, yet alone certainties for the drop.

Champion, I am fully aware that certain younger members ie: Carnegie Academy lads, will be moving on from Otley but under the same understanding newer recruits to the Leeds set up will probably follow Luffers to Cross Green. I doubt very much that Diccon Edwards will have much, if any, involvement due to his new position within the RFU.

Obviously my 'guessing' is all down to as things stand at the minute and circumstances within probably every club will change before 4th September. It's a bit of fun and not meant to be detremental to any side in the league. We'll all start level and come the end of April 2011 the team with the most points will be champions and the three with the least will be relegated. Simples LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Redhead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 May 2010 at 13:26
Originally posted by redhat

 
 
 ...... We can only hope at the end of next season Cornwall still have representation in Div 1 I for one would not put my shirt on it.
 
 
Don't be so pessimistic redhat! I'm sure that it's not only the Cornish clubs feeling the pinch. Next year's league looks very strong though - last year was tough enough but it looks even stronger. I can't see there being a Manchester or Nuneaton to bank ten points against. Then again not many clubs will relish visiting Redruth. If we win our home games we will be OK.
 
The Scots look to be strong favourites but as for the other end of the table ..... perm any three from the other fifteen.
 
Let's hope Wharfedale don't get off to a flyer on 4th September!


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Redruth have signed Luke Collins so there is one hell of a player to start with.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote green&whitetiger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 May 2010 at 17:11
After everything Coventry have been through in the last 3 years, I dont think they'll be easily shocked. As Thomas Snr said, if so few players remain from last season, comparisons are futile. Good season or bad, they cant creep in to promotion/escape from relegation due to play offs. A "proper" league should give them a much better idea where their strengths and weakness's are, unlike  the "phoney" league of the championship.
Their name didnt save then from the drop, nor will it get them promoted. Nothing like a dose of realism to focus the mind and ensure that they perform to the best of their ability on a weekly basis.

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Nuneaton and Manchester aside, it was all pretty even last year, with a further six or seven clubs facing relegation. So, I guess it'll be fairly tight this year.

Of those promoted: Macclesfield were impressive by all accounts, and so will probably stay up.  Barking were equally as impressive in the South. Especially so in the matches I got to watch.  Rosslyn Park on the other hand on were a bit unpredictable and were less than convincing in their win at home over Shelford. (the weather was was shocking but one'd expect more from what is now a N1 team.)

I have no idea what to expect from Cov and I don't suppose their supporters do either. Is it conceivable that without the Championship handout they could do a Manchester?  I think we'll have to see who stays and how their pre-season goes.

CABs, on the face of it, are in a bit of trouble.  Coaching staff leaving and a good number of important players leaving for pastures new.  Nevertheless, Cornish sides do have formidable resources and I would expect both CABs and Redruth to prove great adversaries once more next season.

Blackheath were, in my personal opinion, the disappointment of last year. They had a fairly settled team with some very talented players and yet, apart from a few notable performances, they found themselves battling against relegation until fairly late on.  I don't expect them to be in the same position again. Mostly likely top half of the table.

Very encouraging that Wharfeman sees Cambs in 3rd position. We'll see. The side is even younger than last years and we've lost Handre Schmidt to Bedford.  I would say a solid mid table finish for us. Hopefully.

LS at the top?  One would expect so.  But they did show signs of weakness in the second half of the season, with one particularly bad patch. 

If that happens again, it'll be second perhaps.

The trouble with the above statement is that is relies upon a strong, consistent challenge from another team and, to be honest, I can't see where that might come from. 

The North Eastern triumvirate of Wharfe, Blaydon and Tynedale will be there or thereabouts. But none of them seem to have the consistency away from home to really mount a challenge. Perhaps next season that might change for one of them.

Sedge looked to be getting stronger towards the second half of the season and I think they might well be one of the teams challenging for promotion.  Or at least, keeping LS honest.

Stour' were the proverbial Curates Egg last year.  They looked pretty good on the pitch, but somehow it didn't always come together.  If they can get some early wins and some consistency they could be very dangerous .  Equally, if it starts poorly......well. 

Otley were magnificent in the way they fought what looked like inevitable relegation.  If they carry that spirit into the start of next season they should be mid-season fairly comfortably. If not, then this 2010-2011 season will be less forgiving than last as the three that go down may well be all within a few points of each other, and those above them.

Cinderford are Wharfemans wooden spoonists.  They're tough in the Forest of Dean and are no push overs.  I'm reluctant to count them out way before the season has started, but I think they are going to find it tough going .

My winner would have to be London Scottish.

My relegation 3 would come from RP, Cinderford, Stour, Otley and Coventry.


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Originally posted by redhat

  I thnk all Cornish sides will struggle this year,
  as they have no money most players will be paid peanuts with one ur two players in each side
  getting the lion share of funds available .
  Which will cause many players to look for other ways of boosting their incomes
  Redruth  found last season hard, If they lose players and replace them with players from a lower
  leagues the gates will drop .
  And although Launceston , Had a great season last year, they will also struggle with some big
  names having left We can only hope at the end of next season Cornwall still have representation
  in Div 1 I for one would not put my shirt on it.
 
Hate to say it but you may well be correct in your assesment, but then again if Redruth can sign a proven goal-kicker, well................Wink  Hope springs eternal at this time of year!!!!

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Originally posted by ruckinred

Originally posted by redhat

  I thnk all Cornish sides will struggle this year,
  as they have no money most players will be paid peanuts with one ur two players in each side
  getting the lion share of funds available .
  Which will cause many players to look for other ways of boosting their incomes
  Redruth  found last season hard, If they lose players and replace them with players from a lower
  leagues the gates will drop .
  And although Launceston , Had a great season last year, they will also struggle with some big
  names having left We can only hope at the end of next season Cornwall still have representation
  in Div 1 I for one would not put my shirt on it.
 
Hate to say it but you may well be correct in your assesment, but then again if Redruth can sign a proven goal-kicker, well................Wink  Hope springs eternal at this time of year!!!!
 
Spot on ..... only trouble is where to find one? Nearly every other club's top scorer was their goal kicker last season but not ours! As we lost seven games by five points or less and drew one last season a reliable kicker could have given us a top half finish.
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I appreciate its early days, but here’s my penny’s worth of team predictions for the 2010/11 season. May need tweaking as the kick off of the new season gets closer.   Wink

 

1.         London Scottish – Must be favourites for next season and the team that everyone wants to beat in NL1. A core of between 14 -16 young fulltime professionals bolstered by semi pros must be a significant advantage over the other competing teams, however with a new head coach at the helm how much will this affect performances.

2.         Tynedale – Tyne with their very close connections to the local community & the Falcons will mean that any win up at Corbridge for the opposition, will be hard earned. Can this be the season that their travels improve and ultimately determine the runners up position for the North East side?

3.         Sedgley Park – After a season of consolidation which allowed the club to steady the boat, the Tigers will be in a position to be there or there abouts for next season. Although they have lost one or two good players, these are being replaced by returning prodigal sons.

4.         Blackheath – Having flirting in and around the lower end of the table last season, the new season could well bring better success for Club, given that the younger players in their side will have had another year under their belts. Success again will be built around a strong pack.

5          Wharfedale – Dale have lost a number of key personnel from their 2009/10 squad, either through moving up to a higher grade or retirements. A significant amount of pressure on their new young head coach to deliver; who will no doubt exploit his connections at Leeds to bring in a crop of Leeds Academy players.

6.         Redruth – One of the 2009/10 under achievers who will bounce back and be the leading Cornish outfit for the 2010/11 season. Re-structuring at the club, which will include a new head coach; together with challenges over finances; will result in a greater focus on local talent. Always hard to beat at home; however predict a higher number of away victories in 2010/11.   

7.         Blaydon – Can the Geordie’s repeat their 2009/10 exploits for the new season? A strong work manlike side, with no outstanding star players. The challenge for the coaching staff at Blaydon is that all the teams who played them last season will know what to expect and the surprise element will no longer be there.

8.         Cambridge – The big question for the B & S club for 2010/11 is who will replace their prolific 30 touchdown expert, who has moved on to Bedford. The squad will have an even greater emphasis on youth, but will this be enough to compete across a very demanding 30 match schedule. Sufficient strength in depth across the squad to cope with a long gruelling season will also be a challenge for the B & S team.

9.         Otley – How much of a new season bounce will the White Rose team have, following their remarkable end of season recovery? For a long time, it looked as if they were odds on to make back to back drops. Wharfedale will compete with Otley over the Leeds Academy players, so how much of an effect will this have on them?

10.       Coventry – The question for the Midlanders is how they will cope with the loss of RFU funding. The full time professionals at the club will be long gone before the 2010/11 season starts and semi-pros will need to be brought in. The DoR who took the team down, appears to be still in place and unless there is instant success on the pitch, he will be under even more pressure to move on. A season of consolidation, with no immediate return to the Championship and a big reality check for the supporters of the club.

11.       Launceston – Financial issues at the CABs for the 2010/11 season will be the biggest challenge for the new coaching team. A significant loss of key players and last season’s coaching staff will have a negative impact on the team and will lead to a number of loses, which last season would have been unthinkable. A big change in the recent fortunes of the CABs.

12.       Stourbridge – Stourbridge’s form was all over the place in the 2009/10 season. They flirted with the relegation positions for a long time; however a couple of significant victories allowed them to achieve safety with games to spare. The 2010/11 season will be a case of déjà vu and again periods of flirting with relegation will be on the agenda, but safety will be achieved.

13.       Macclesfield – The strongest of the promoted teams, however I still believe they will still

 see them struggle, but safety will be achieved in the final matches of the season. A lot will be determined in how much they recruit over the summer, as the step up from level 4 is significant, especially as the level 4 sides will not be used to the gruelling playing schedule.

14.       Barking – Sadly, the lack of finances at the Essex club will be the greatest influence in determining survival at level 3. A number of the promising youngsters at the club have already decided to move on and the challenge for the excellent coaching staff is to retain as many as possible for the new season. Could surprise a few sides and the drop will be a close thing.

15        Rosslyn Park – Another of the promoted sides who will make an instant return to level 4. In their promotion season Park missed out in a raft of bonus point wins, due to their inability to achieve 4 try point wins. At level 3, clubs will not be so accommodating and I fear a season of near loss misses will be on the cards.

16        Cinderford – Cinders have done remarkable to maintain level 3 rugby for 3 seasons. They flirted in and around the relegation area for most of last season and were fortunate that there were at least 2 sides who were struggling from day one. This will not happen this season; however they will put up a good fight.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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So much accuracy before a ball has been kicked! We shall see. I agree that the Scots are favourites but am mystified as to how such assessments can be made about the rest. I can't see any  real weaknesses yet but that may change once we get underway.
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The joker in the pack this year is Macclesfield Clown - September will be an ideal month to guage their potential - Stourbridge, Sedgely Park, Cinderford and then Cambridge.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote deputydawg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jun 2010 at 13:10
Just one prediction from me. Cambridge will not be relegated Thumbs Up
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Hexhamshire Lad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jun 2010 at 16:58
Not used to seeing people predict Tynedale doing anything other than struggling. Can't say how things will go unitl we see who turns up to preseason training. As others have said, much depends on how we do on our travels and we also need to reduce our yellow card count too. If we could play every week the way we did when Exiles came to visit, then we might do something special. However, I still think the team is unbalanced and are short of a bit of beef in the back row and 12 positions for the heavier grounds. If we could play all year round on Spring type pitches, life would be wonderful.
 
I hope however that there are still 4 or 5 clubs in with a shout at promotion at Easter and that relegation could be any 3 from 8 or 9 at the same stage. That will make it a very exciting league.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote SWR Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jun 2010 at 17:52
Macclesfield could do better than people think. They have a lot of top players and I understand they will have cash to be spend. With the right recruitment they could do very well.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Tea Ticket Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 2010 at 11:00
The Otley side is young and we will retain players, some with Leeds, where we have obvious links.
 
The style that we play gives the young players the chance to play !
 
We just need to have a few more old heads in the mix.
 
Like it or like it not, national one is a league that should be a breeding ground for young players on the up and those that have found their level or older heads that want to give something back.
 
It has for too long been seen as a decent pay day for the mediocre player fuelled by those clubs that want to pay them.
Play hard, drink hard, talk rubbish !
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