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    Posted: 29 Apr 2019 at 09:31
Farewell National One it was fun while it lasted. 

I am proud of how a very small club lasted two seasons at National 1 level.............and with 2 minutes to go we were in the mix for another season.

However the spirit and camaraderie that got Caldy to these dizzy heights still remains and next season we get to do it again with all our Northern friends.

Interestingly this season the total number of league points amassed by the relegated clubs was 180 points. Prior to this season the average number of points amassed by the relegated clubs since National 1 went to 16 teams was 127 points.

The most ever points amassed by the relegated clubs prior to this 2018/19 season was 151 points in 2010/11 and (ignoring the outlier of the 2009/10 season when the total was 91 points due to Manachester amassing -2 points) the least was 113 points in 2015/16.

Caldy have gone down with 62 points, only one side ever has previoulsy amassed 62 points and been relegated and that was Redruth in 2010/11

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Maybe don’t over play the small club bit next season Eddie
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Originally posted by Monkey Boy Monkey Boy wrote:

Maybe don’t over play the small club bit next season Eddie

MB having been at Moseley last weekend sitting in their magnifcent stand and drinking in a couple of their cavernous bars difficult to pitch Caldy as anything other than a small club.

But next season we will be going to places like Fylde,Sedgely Park and Stourbridge so back in amongst the minnows
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Originally posted by Monkey Boy Monkey Boy wrote:

Maybe don’t over play the small club bit next season Eddie
 
Don't worry, we Northerners all know exactly what Caldy is; No street numbers -just names,  a minted club from the very richest part of of Merseyside,  what they claim it is a wood shack - but we all know it is a listed building, supporters arriving by hoss n cart - but in reality it's in the club chopper.  

I suspect they will go straight back up; partly because they have royalty in their backline, but also because no-one else wants to.

I for one am delighted to visit and welcome Caldy again, some real fun rugby supporters, but this is hugely tempered by the fact we have to go to Luffbra -  It's just not a rugby club, and pithed students on the touchline makes for an unsavoury atmosphere - Even less desirable than a trip to South Leicester, despite it feeling like a home fixture.

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In comparison to the rest of National 1 Caldy's budget was probably in the bottom one ..........by a substantial margin and Caldy's clubhouse was just pipped to being the smallest clubhouse by OE's, although I do think OE's may have a slightly bigger budget. 

The Gyrocopter that transported a couple of Caldy supporters to Wharfedale a few years back is not typical of Caldy's transport arrangements although worryingly on the coach trip home from Moseley Graham did suggest we consider renting the gyrocopter for a shuttle service next season..........drink may have been involved.


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Originally posted by Big Eddie Big Eddie wrote:

Originally posted by Monkey Boy Monkey Boy wrote:

Maybe don’t over play the small club bit next season Eddie

MB having been at Moseley last weekend sitting in their magnifcent stand and drinking in a couple of their cavernous bars difficult to pitch Caldy as anything other than a small club.

But next season we will be going to places like Fylde,Sedgely Park and Stourbridge so back in amongst the minnows

I'll be sorry to see Caldy go - it was always fun to have their supporters in town, even though I couldn't be there at the weekend. BE I've enjoyed your postings over the past couple of seasons, and hope you can resume them in N1 before too long. From a purely selfish pov I've always been interested in your takes on other clubs grounds/atmospheres/welcomes, etc as they've appeared, and am sorry if for understandable reasons we're not going to get the full write-up of what I believe was your debut visit to the common on Saturday!


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Originally posted by Big Eddie Big Eddie wrote:

In comparison to the rest of National 1 Caldy's budget was probably in the bottom one ..........by a substantial margin and Caldy's clubhouse was just pipped to being the smallest clubhouse by OE's, although I do think OE's may have a slightly bigger budget. 

The Gyrocopter that transported a couple of Caldy supporters to Wharfedale a few years back is not typical of Caldy's transport arrangements although worryingly on the coach trip home from Moseley Graham did suggest we consider renting the gyrocopter for a shuttle service next season..........drink may have been involved.



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Originally posted by billesleyexile billesleyexile wrote:

Originally posted by Big Eddie Big Eddie wrote:

Originally posted by Monkey Boy Monkey Boy wrote:

Maybe don’t over play the small club bit next season Eddie

MB having been at Moseley last weekend sitting in their magnifcent stand and drinking in a couple of their cavernous bars difficult to pitch Caldy as anything other than a small club.

But next season we will be going to places like Fylde,Sedgely Park and Stourbridge so back in amongst the minnows

I'll be sorry to see Caldy go - it was always fun to have their supporters in town, even though I couldn't be there at the weekend. BE I've enjoyed your postings over the past couple of seasons, and hope you can resume them in N1 before too long. From a purely selfish pov I've always been interested in your takes on other clubs grounds/atmospheres/welcomes, etc as they've appeared, and am sorry if for understandable reasons we're not going to get the full write-up of what I believe was your debut visit to the common on Saturday!


Biily,

I very much enjoyed my visit to the Common on Saturday and I was hugely impressed with the facilities. I chatted to a number of the Moseley supporters including at length to Ajay Dodhia and they all seemed to be good sorts. Moseley has superb facilities and as expected given the nature of the match a very decent crowd was there to witness it.

The Moseley security guys did keep the players coach from entering the ground for a while and they tried to get Caldy's forwards coach to pay admission leading to some confusion and a little irritation which our Graham sorted in his usual unflappable style. 

After that we drank steadily in one of your excellent bars until kick off time.

After leaking an early score Caldy were on top for most of the first half against a very strong wind and when Nick Royle broke clear and chipped ahead I thought we would go two scores up but the referee decided to give us a penalty for a previous offence rather than let Nick score.

I was confident that with the wind Caldy would get the win but despite crossing the line twice (and Caldy's tighthead was certain there was no double movement for his score) Caldy couldn't get two scores ahead. I never expected Moseley to score again but two baffling Yellow Cards gave Moseley the upper hand and a quickly taken tap led to the fateful score two minutes from time.

C'est la vie..........the coach trip home was somewhat subdued but Ajay's present of a few cases of beer helped. At least there was no nakedness this week .......it does drive Graham into a bit of a frenzy and he was already flying after passing his annual assessment.
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Sorry you had to go - enjoyed meeting you at Cambridge.
Hopefully we are still in National 1 when you get back.

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As Caldy supporters we have had some terrific and memorable fun in National One here are some of those memories:

- Arriving at Bishop's Stortford for our first game in National One. The weather was hot. Bishop's Stortford were hot and their totty were super hot. Wicky bought us beers all day. A bonus point gained and some new friends-our National One journey was off to a great start.

- DMP's massive stadium was awe inspiring so big we were lost in it so much so that no one from DMP knew we were there. Awkward but we made up later

- OE's home and away great rugby people who could really really drink

- Plymouth away so far so wet so tiring but a fun night out

- Moseley bigger than us in most ways but seemed to be our sort

- Graham leaving himself behind at Euston

- Graham's clip board being inspected by Workerbee who was about to find fault before Big Degsy slapped him down 

- Graham's precise and meticulous planning which never failed to get most of the team and the coach within 20 miles of our intended destination
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I too have very much enjoyed BE's colourful postings about life in N1 and will certainly be tuning in again on the old frequency next season... Clap Beer
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Thanks Islander,

For me it is all about good endeavour, good friends and good rugby. It is a shame that the Community element of it all (how I hate that patronising term that the RFU coined which has been used to somehow make a distinction between what the RFU sees as proper rugby - professional and elite rugby and the messing around for fun stuff that all other clubs get involved in) is being lost as the Professional Clubs use National 1 as a platform for their academy and to develop their younger pro players. The identity is lost in my view.

So I was pleased that Caldy did not go down that route but stuck with their own lads and generally promoted from within as the injuries mounted to first team players.

To my mind that is how it should always be.
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Well played Eddie. Keep it coming!
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Farewell it maybe , but not goodbye .

For me , one word for Caldy , Respect . ClapClapClapClap

Best wishes for next season .

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Originally posted by Albionlass Albionlass wrote:

Farewell it maybe , but not goodbye . 
For me , one word for Caldy , Respect . ClapClapClapClap
Best wishes for next season .


Thanks Albionlass that means a lot to Caldy and their supporters. When we won National 2 North two years ago there was some trepidation as to how we would fare relying on our own playing resources underpinned with our very traditional infrastructure and club ethos. 

The supporters were thrilled their lads would be playing against some of the historic names in English rugby we hoped they could put up a respectable showing. They did that and more and gave us a brilliantly enjoyable journey.

All based on a sumptuous diet of Pot Noodle.


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Originally posted by Big Eddie Big Eddie wrote:

Originally posted by Albionlass Albionlass wrote:

Farewell it maybe , but not goodbye . 
For me , one word for Caldy , Respect . ClapClapClapClap
Best wishes for next season .


Thanks Albionlass that means a lot to Caldy and their supporters. When we won National 2 North two years ago there was some trepidation as to how we would fare relying on our own playing resources underpinned with our very traditional infrastructure and club ethos. 

The supporters were thrilled their lads would be playing against some of the historic names in English rugby we hoped they could put up a respectable showing. They did that and more and gave us a brilliantly enjoyable journey.

All based on a sumptuous diet of Pot Noodle.
 

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I recall the controversial playoff match between Caldy and Mond some years back. Ironic both should be relegated simultaneously,albeit from different places.
I dare say Caldy will be back soon and possibly play Mond again, if we're still there.
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Originally posted by Pappashanga Pappashanga wrote:

I recall the controversial playoff match between Caldy and Mond some years back. Ironic both should be relegated simultaneously,albeit from different places.
I dare say Caldy will be back soon and possibly play Mond again, if we're still there.

It was a great day out. With two minutes of extra time to go we were still ahead having played most of the game plus extra time with only 14 men on the pitch after the ref's controversial red card for Jack Collister, and our full back waiting to get to Wembley via a motor cycle courier where his presence as a leading figure in the Liverpool FC 'hierarchy' was required

Thank God you scored when you did. We were not ready for National 1 at that time. Richmond supporters must have been bricking it for most of the match

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Straight back up Eddie?
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Originally posted by Monkey Boy Monkey Boy wrote:

Straight back up Eddie?

That is difficult to predict. Winning National 2 North is not easy as there are many sides with the infrastructure, desire and ability to play in National 1 and Pen 15 has already predicted that 2019/20 season will be Stourbridge's year.

If Caldy retain the majority of their squad and perhaps unearth another couple of gems they should be in the mix especially as there is a fabulous crop of young players coming through in a very strong 2nd xv. However there are some big beasts waiting to down us in the shape of Fylde/Wharfedale/Stourbridge/Hinckley/Tynedale and Huddersfield without considering the Students and others.

It will be hard going but the planning has already started. Barry and Degsy have formed a very exclusive supporters club which will meet regularly to plan strategy and consider how best to support Caldy in a very partisan and un PC manner. 

I am sure there will be flagrant breaches of all forms of etiquette but as membership of this group is by invitation only the Omerta under which we will be expected to operate will keep us out of trouble

I have been given some inkling of the 5 codes I am required to obey. To be honest they seem somewhat benign compared to Mrs Bolognese's house rules
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