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    Posted: 18 Sep 2018 at 16:00
I am (still) trying to list all England (full, male) caps on display in clubs, museums etc.

I want to record the heritage of the game.

On your travels please keep an eye out and let me know if you spot any caps.

I've set up a Twitter account in case you want to send a photo etc. @capsrugby

Thank you.

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Hi Richard,
Not sure if I informed you previously, but the RFU Museum currently hold one of ours.
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Originally posted by 'Hopper 'Hopper wrote:

Hi Richard,
Not sure if I informed you previously, but the RFU Museum currently hold one of ours.


Remind me which player? Cheers.
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Originally posted by Richard Lowther Richard Lowther wrote:

Originally posted by 'Hopper 'Hopper wrote:

Hi Richard,
Not sure if I informed you previously, but the RFU Museum currently hold one of ours.


Remind me which player? Cheers.


It's one of the Hunt brothers, WH I think.
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Cheers, yes W.H, he's on my list.
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I'm sure there are a couple in the International suite in Waterloo. Will check next time I am there Richard and let you know.
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Originally posted by Elma Fudd Elma Fudd wrote:

I'm sure there are a couple in the International suite in Waterloo. Will check next time I am there Richard and let you know.


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Next season will be our Sesquicentennial and we are having a display of memorabilia at the Harris Museum Preston from July 2019, part of which we hope to include one of Wade Dooley's caps.
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Originally posted by 'Hopper 'Hopper wrote:

Next season will be our Sesquicentennial and we are having a display of memorabilia at the Harris Museum Preston from July 2019, part of which we hope to include one of Wade Dooley's caps.


Excellent. I'll make a note in my diary.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Willy Mclintosh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Sep 2018 at 21:38
Originally posted by Richard Lowther Richard Lowther wrote:

I am (still) trying to list all England (full, male) caps on display in clubs, museums etc.

I want to record the heritage of the game.

On your travels please keep an eye out and let me know if you spot any caps.

I've set up a Twitter account in case you want to send a photo etc. @capsrugby

Thank you.

 
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Let me know if any could be in clubhouses that Sandal play this year / next and I'll get you photo's !
 
I'll even give you a lift if its one you really, really want to see !
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Richard Lowther Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Sep 2018 at 09:07
Cheers Willy, there are at least two I have interest in. Kendal is on, should have Sam Martindale's cap.
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Pocklington have the cap of Alf Kewney, who made 16 England appearances 1906-13 and was nicknamed 'Kicking Ginger' because of his fiery temperament. He was named at prop in Rugby World magazine's 'Team of the Millennium' in 2000.

Kewney won his first cap at Rockcliiff RFC in the north-east then 'transferred' to Leicester Tigers in 1908. Tigers were accused of giving financial inducements to Kewney and two other international signings but an RFU hearing, which was held on the same day of the England v Ireland game at Welford Road in 1909, exonerated Tigers and the players. The RFU President promptly resigned in protest at the verdict.

Kewney worked in the shipping industry and moved from Tyneside to East Yorkshire, becoming an early coaching advisor at Pocklington in the 1930s.

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Originally posted by PercyR PercyR wrote:

Pocklington have the cap of Alf Kewney, who made 16 England appearances 1906-13 and was nicknamed 'Kicking Ginger' because of his fiery temperament.


Excellent and thank you very much for this. It's a classic example that the caps are not necessarily in the clubs to which you connect the player as a player.

I'll add it to my list of clubs to visit - or revisit as I still remember how Billy Hardy nearly kicked Wakefield out of the Yorkshire Cup in the early 80s!
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Richard, I believe Buff Berry's Cap is on display in the Tyldesley Clubhouse, along with his Lancs Cap from pre-schism and Lancs Northern Union Cap. I seem remember someone mentioning he is one of the players depicted in Wollen's "The Match" from the Roses game of 1893.
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Originally posted by PiffPaff PiffPaff wrote:


Richard, I believe Buff Berry's Cap is on display in the Tyldesley Clubhouse, along with his Lancs Cap from pre-schism and Lancs Northern Union Cap. I seem remember someone mentioning he is one of the players depicted in Wollen's "The Match" from the Roses game of 1893.


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Not cap related, but had to respond to your memory about the late Billy Hardy and his Yorkshire Cup kicking exploits in the 80s - that game against Wakefield, who were the top side in the north at the time, included what I think might be a unique rugby feat.

One of Hardy's monster kicks from halfway hit the woodwork five times then came out! Incredibly it crashed into the right hand post, dropped down and bounced twice along the crossbar, bounced into the left hand post, then back onto the bar again and out. Never heard so many oohs, aahs and groans at a rugby ground. I think Wakefield won the first round game 18-12 and went on to win the Cup that year.


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