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Originally posted by No 7 No 7 wrote:

Originally posted by The Blues The Blues wrote:

Blues for years have had an emergency service day where anyone with the ID (benefits away supporters) can enter the ground for free. Would be interesting if Cov and Ealing (2 of the richer clubs) would continue this on.

Is this a contest !.it would be 'interesting' if any club matched Mike Gooleys Trailfinders charitable contributions . I could list several substantial contributions but will not. Every club tries  their very best to contribute to society in many ways.

Free Entry Tickets Are Always Welcome. Ealing Tend To Free Tickets To Local Schools .


Just saying why just this year. It is good they both are doing something but if it is 1 year it is more a PR stunt rather than a lasting thing.

We weren’t talking about owners were we, just clubs, but yes it could be argued the amount of money Mike Gooley has pumped in to Ealing has amounted to charity with the massive squad of players being paid over inflated salaries for the division. Wink

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote No 7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 May 2020 at 10:56
In my opinion considering the short window of opportunity to earn any money playing rugby as a pro or semi pro they are all underpaid. The risk of horrific injury just does not equate to the pittance they all earn even at Ealing Trailfinders. 

Edited by No 7 - 01 May 2020 at 10:57
Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Raider999 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 May 2020 at 12:28
Originally posted by No 7 No 7 wrote:

In my opinion considering the short window of opportunity to earn any money playing rugby as a pro or semi pro they are all underpaid. The risk of horrific injury just does not equate to the pittance they all earn even at Ealing Trailfinders. 


Totally agree - if in doubt stand on the touch line and hear the physicality of the tackles
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote WEvans Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2020 at 16:05
Originally posted by The Blues The Blues wrote:

Blues for years have had an emergency service day where anyone with the ID (benefits away supporters) can enter the ground for free. Would be interesting if Cov and Ealing (2 of the richer clubs) would continue this on.

In addition to the thought (as mentioned by others) that this shouldn't be a competition I would replace "richer" with "less poor". 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pirate Pig Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 May 2020 at 13:28
There is an article on the BBC sports website about the impact the RFU funding and early end to the season due to the Coronavirus epidemic are having on Championship clubs.
It reports that both Nottingham(already confirmed) and London Scottish have decided to go part time.
Coventry are expected to make losses of £750,000 and are having to make cuts to their squad and backroom staff which their chairman says has set back their development as a professional club by 2 years.
The sad thing in this article is that there has been no confirmation from the RFU to date regarding the agreed funding for next season.
It is hoped that the season may start in September but that could be behind closed doors which would be a disaster for clubs finances which relies heavily on gate receipts.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Raider999 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jul 2020 at 11:29
An article in the financial pages of today's telegraph suggests BT may be able to retain their rugby rights, possibly even get international rights as Sky my scale back their expected bid.

More interestingly, it suggests ITV may be interested in rugby coverage - is this a possible new revenue stream for the Championship?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Stalwart Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jul 2020 at 11:31
If the RFU are sensible (haha) they would insist that more coverage of The Championship is part of the deal. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Raider999 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jul 2020 at 13:15
Originally posted by Stalwart Stalwart wrote:

If the RFU are sensible (haha) they would insist that more coverage of The Championship is part of the deal. 


Things need to change - any current deal to show Championship rugby results in the money going to RFU.

I would like to see the Championship clubs control their own deal with the money benefitting them directly.

This season would be a good starting point, especially with Saracens in the Championship.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JonDee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jul 2020 at 17:25
Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Stalwart Stalwart wrote:

If the RFU are sensible (haha) they would insist that more coverage of The Championship is part of the deal. 


Things need to change - any current deal to show Championship rugby results in the money going to RFU.

I would like to see the Championship clubs control their own deal with the money benefitting them directly.

This season would be a good starting point, especially with Saracens in the Championship.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cheshire exile Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jul 2020 at 18:21
The Championship on free to air TV would be a massive step forward.
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Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

An article in the financial pages of today's telegraph suggests BT may be able to retain their rugby rights, possibly even get international rights as Sky my scale back their expected bid.

More interestingly, it suggests ITV may be interested in rugby coverage - is this a possible new revenue stream for the Championship?


Sorry to be cynical but if that's the case Rugby in this country is stitched if Sky scales back obviously with no discussion with BT !! BT will offer a big discount to Rugby as will Sky in another area of sport that BT may decide to reduce their bidding which in the present climate will help both Sky and BT and the dividend to their shareholders
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Originally posted by JonDee JonDee wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

An article in the financial pages of today's telegraph suggests BT may be able to retain their rugby rights, possibly even get international rights as Sky my scale back their expected bid.

More interestingly, it suggests ITV may be interested in rugby coverage - is this a possible new revenue stream for the Championship?


Sorry to be cynical but if that's the case Rugby in this country is stitched if Sky scales back obviously with no discussion with BT !! BT will offer a big discount to Rugby as will Sky in another area of sport that BT may decide to reduce their bidding which in the present climate will help both Sky and BT and the dividend to their shareholders


Two things, firstly it is common knowledge that sky/BT agreed not to inflate bids to get extra packages at the last Premier League rights issue - this led to 2 minor packages not being sold first time round and virtually given away to Prime.

Secondly, the article said sky were believed to be about to try to get Premier Rugby back, but Covid had made them re-think.

It is only the Premiership who will lose out, so who cares really - the RFU will bail them out.

As I said before the Championship should do their own deal with ITV, bypass the RFU who are unlikely to pass it on and keep the money for themselves.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mark W-J Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jul 2020 at 08:21
Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

As I said before the Championship should do their own deal with ITV, bypass the RFU who are unlikely to pass it on and keep the money for themselves.
But who owns the Championship - or, to give it its full name, the RFU Championship...?

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Originally posted by Mark W-J Mark W-J wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

As I said before the Championship should do their own deal with ITV, bypass the RFU who are unlikely to pass it on and keep the money for themselves.

But who owns the Championship - or, to give it its full name, the RFU Championship...?



Its a league like any other subject to the whims of the RFU

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On 10 November 2008 it was proposed by the Rugby Football Union that the second tier of the English rugby union system should be a fully professional twelve club Championship. The proposal was criticised by the then National League One chairman Geoff Irvine, representing the clubs, who described it as "financial suicide", although six League One clubs subsequently supported the proposal. The proposals required five clubs to be relegated to National Division Two, with only one club being promoted from that division and one club joining the league from the Premiership.[2] On 15 November 2008 the RFU Council voted overwhelmingly in favour of the new proposal, which began in September 2009.[3] Under the proposal the RFU paid £2.3 million a year to help fund the change, with future rises due through television rights.[2]
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mark W-J Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jul 2020 at 11:20
My point is that the clubs can't sell something they don't own.  The Championship (and by extension the TV rights to the Championship) is owned by the RFU.  It is (believe it or not) the RFU's flagship competition.
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Originally posted by Mark W-J Mark W-J wrote:

My point is that the clubs can't sell something they don't own.  The Championship (and by extension the TV rights to the Championship) is owned by the RFU.  It is (believe it or not) the RFU's flagship competition.


Agree with you totally and they never bothered to sell it to TV so the Championship never got any income apart from what the RFU decided to give. If they had sold it and provided the Championship with with an additional income they wouldn't have had to put as much money in
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Who is going to watch it? What were the viewing figures like on Sky for Championship games? Not huge I’m betting.

So what actual commercial value could they realistically demand? Given it will be a semi pro competition going forward, that broadcasters can offer much reduced packages and the weekly cumulative crowds run to a few thousand spectators at best, where is the demand for this product?

There is none I’d suggest. 
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