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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote OldNick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Feb 2020 at 18:41
I gather from Rowland Winter’s CWR radio interview after the game that the final penalty count was about twice as many against the CPs as against Coventry, but certainly in the first quarter it was the other way around.
The nose-high off-the-ball tackle on David Halaifanoa, as he chased his own grubber kick could have resulted in a red on other occasions.

C P were to some extent their own worst enemies. As an example, on three consecutive set pieces the Broomfield side AR shouted at the number 14 to move the backs line back, and was ignored. At a break in play he went onto the pitch and spoke to the number 14. Next set piece, when they crept forward again and ignored his shouted instruction the referee was warned and watching, and CP were penalised.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rob C Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Feb 2020 at 19:28
I noticed the same Nick and pointed out to the AR (politely) that the Cornish backs had totally ignored him yet weren't penalised.  The 14 was in line with the AR, the rest of the backs were a metre in front.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TAS63 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Feb 2020 at 21:04
Really pleased with the Blues win this afternoon. Great to see them sticking to it and showing some real passion to come back and win the game.

Worst news of the afternoon....... that Peter Lydon stormed it with Ealing this afternoon. Fair play to him, would be pleased - but now not expecting it - to see him back at Goldington Road. 
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Can anyone who was there give me a summary of Bedford Jersey match please.
Was this a genuine Blues win or did the Reds contrive to lose late on ?
Come on Jersey........
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 Westcoaster, I was there, pretty even game , your 9 & 10 caused havoc all afternoon, they look really dangerous. Jersey kicking downhill and with a strong following wind 1st half scored their tries from turnover balls, 1 knock on and a blocked 22 drop out, went 5-18 up. We Scored 3 well taken tries, one from a superb kick through from Hooley, a dart over from a ruck on your line by our scrum half and a crash over from our no.4 after some consistent pressure right on 1/2 time. HT was 17-18. 
Second half was scoreless for about the first 20mins, cagey stuff, looking for the other side to make a mistake, then a lovely counter attack from  jersey with an equally brilliantly weighted kick through resulted in a try for Jersey. A pen from the 10m line got us back to 20-25, a lot of pressure from Bedford in the last 15 was well defended, with a coule of dangerous breaks we managed to break up. A sequence of pens resulted in a kick brilliantly placed into the 5m area from a good distance out, lots of pressure, more penalties, scrum in front of the posts, our 8 broke off the back and crashed over. Ran the clock down taking the conversion to win, I think Bedford deserved it, I'd love to know the penalty count as Jersey seemed to constantly giving them away, should have had a yellow card for a knockdown in the first half and another for persistent infringement in the 2nd, but it was a great game to watch.


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I want you all to line up in a circle and pair up in three's alphabetically by height.
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Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Originally posted by oneagainstthehead oneagainstthehead wrote:

Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

59 - 5 final score at Vallis Way. Some real champagne rugby in the second half.
‘3rd choice full-back’ Pete Lydon pulled back from loan to Bedford with a point to prove. Boy, did he prove it! Man of the match performance including a try and several assists, rock solid in defence (as was the whole team for the first time this season) and even managed a few accurate passes and off-loads (not his strong point!) He provides a level of defensive stability that has been sorely lacking all season, surely he must keep his place.

Second this. Plus the spinning clearing kick he made when he scooped up a loose ball late in the second half must have went 40 meters. I can't even explain how amazing that kick was.
Well if you really must. Just two conditions, please don't play him against us, and send us Jordan Burns. We'll even give him game time 👍
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What Bluepip said. 100%. A game that the Reds should have won, but the better team won it on the day.
Now! The result was correct ok! However, the off side decision by the RA to calm Jersey off side was a joke.
Dreadful decision, however the kick to the corner in the build up was pure genius. I can’t deny that the better team won today. It is great to have Bedford back
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Bedford were their usual selfs... (which was good to see after the early part of the season), scoring good tries but then making mad mistakes in their own 22 to gift most of Jerseys points to them on a plate in the first half. Jersey controlled the second half. Bedford dominated the scrum but got penalised all game. What amazed me was that Jerseys defence came with a plan to drift wide to stop Bedfords obvious width..... if Bedfords 10 or 12 looked up they never had any defence in front of them!!! Jersey committed 3 intentional knock ons with no cards.... 
I think Jersey switched off, 3 times in the last few minutes they were gifted possession and rather than stick it up their jumper they kept box kicking it back to Bedford. With 5 minutes to go Bedford remembered they were playing down hill with the wind and used it to get field position. A strange game with neither team in control all game, but both teams benefitting from the other switching off. 
I was bemused with the Jersey tactic of the front row constantly taking a knee and the swarm of water boys coming on every breakdown from the 30 minute onwards and then moaning about the 6 minutes of injury time at the end. Could have been 16 minutes. Refs need to do more to stop the constant army of people coming onto the pitch every 5 minutes..... 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Westcoaster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Feb 2020 at 09:28
Sounds a close game , thanks guys.
Bedfordian , i couldn't agree more. The swarm of "waterboys" (and assistant coaches) coming on whenever theres some break in play is an embarrassment. The refs need to be far firmer. Players don't need all this water brought on - its a farce which the games administrators should put a stop to. The only time it should be legitimate is when a conversion is being taken.
Come on Jersey........
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Originally posted by Bedfordian Bedfordian wrote:

Bedford were their usual selfs... (which was good to see after the early part of the season), scoring good tries but then making mad mistakes in their own 22 to gift most of Jerseys points to them on a plate in the first half. Jersey controlled the second half. Bedford dominated the scrum but got penalised all game. What amazed me was that Jerseys defence came with a plan to drift wide to stop Bedfords obvious width..... if Bedfords 10 or 12 looked up they never had any defence in front of them!!! Jersey committed 3 intentional knock ons with no cards.... 
I think Jersey switched off, 3 times in the last few minutes they were gifted possession and rather than stick it up their jumper they kept box kicking it back to Bedford. With 5 minutes to go Bedford remembered they were playing down hill with the wind and used it to get field position. A strange game with neither team in control all game, but both teams benefitting from the other switching off. 
I was bemused with the Jersey tactic of the front row constantly taking a knee and the swarm of water boys coming on every breakdown from the 30 minute onwards and then moaning about the 6 minutes of injury time at the end. Could have been 16 minutes. Refs need to do more to stop the constant army of people coming onto the pitch every 5 minutes..... 
A fair accurate account, fancy reporting for The Rugby Paper?  Luke Jarmyn saw Greg Dyer score and make it 25  17 to Jersey at half time!! I recall it being 18  17 to them.  On a separate note Atkinson had a monster game, with Onojaife getting more involved,  seems to be relishing the task more recently.   I was going to compare the last couple of referees at Goldington Road but I'd better not. 
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Great to see Mike Le B in the marquee after the game and despite my best attempts to convince him otherwise, his heart has definitely turned blue trim red.
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And when the ref has stopped the clock for a genuine injury or other reason.
Come on Jersey........
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Originally posted by BP BP wrote:

Nottingham played well last night, but still not at their best.
I agree with previous post that Leeds are getting what they deserve, but spare a thought for the players who are victims of others failures.
As to the pitch, there are tufts of grass on a sandpit. League starts this weekend. God help them. Very poor.


Interesting, re the pitch - 2 super league matches on it today.

Watched a RL friendly the other week when the pitch looked very good (on tv) - obviously a couple of union games has ruined it.

I suspect the Rhinos will be glad to see the back of YC
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Should have added,  great to see so many Jersey supporters at G R, big well done. 
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A few further thoughts from Vallis Way yesterday:

1. I was completely wrong about the squad selection being weak. I've always been a big Lydon fan, but otherwise I was very leary of the changes, however Nathan Fowler, the changed props and Sloane/Tovey/Howard in midfield proved me wrong. Almost certainly the most impressive depth I've seen at Ealing.

2. Trailfinders are still really struggling to find an audience. It was a bit windy, but really as nice a February day as one could expect, but only about 600 fans turned out for ET. Of these, a good chunk were actually neutrals who had been brought in as part of a UK experience package for Americans that I think was sold through Trailfinders (the travel business). Full points to Mike Gooley for doing everything possible to increase the gate though. I've invited, friends, neighbours and office mates, and even free tickets are rarely enough to get someone interested. Not sure what they can do.

3. On the same topic, Hartpury must have close to zero travelling support. I would guess no more than 25 to 30 people turned out for them. Yet another reason that their presence is to the league's detriment. Rotherham in their final season must have brought down a full coach-load.

4. I'm very hopeful that Ealing get a bit more of Levi Davis' time. He was electric coming on in the final quarter. No idea how we got use of him this weekend, but the swiftness of his feet was amazing.

5. Defense - As someone else mentioned, Peter Lydon made a huge difference in the defensive effort. He got low and took down a couple large ball carriers rampaging up the middle which would have gotten by at least one of our injured 15s...Thanks to this effort, Ealing now has (at least temporarily) the best points difference, which is good as they've scored well over a hundred points more than the next closest team.
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Great effort from Amptill today to take a TBP and outscore Newcastle in the second half. 👏👏👏
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Here we are. Halfway through the season. And Ampthill lie a very healthy sixth in the table.About five or six places higher than most level headed Ampthill (and other) supporters hoped for last September. And today they were only outscored by six tries to five away to Newcastle Falcons. I for one would like to say well done to the current squad and coaching team for making an old man very happy.
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Originally posted by Bigbluepip Bigbluepip wrote:

 Westcoaster, I was there, pretty even game , your 9 & 10 caused havoc all afternoon, they look really dangerous. Jersey kicking downhill and with a strong following wind 1st half scored their tries from turnover balls, 1 knock on and a blocked 22 drop out, went 5-18 up. We Scored 3 well taken tries, one from a superb kick through from Hooley, a dart over from a ruck on your line by our scrum half and a crash over from our no.4 after some consistent pressure right on 1/2 time. HT was 17-18. 
Second half was scoreless for about the first 20mins, cagey stuff, looking for the other side to make a mistake, then a lovely counter attack from  jersey with an equally brilliantly weighted kick through resulted in a try for Jersey. A pen from the 10m line got us back to 20-25, a lot of pressure from Bedford in the last 15 was well defended, with a coule of dangerous breaks we managed to break up. A sequence of pens resulted in a kick brilliantly placed into the 5m area from a good distance out, lots of pressure, more penalties, scrum in front of the posts, our 8 broke off the back and crashed over. Ran the clock down taking the conversion to win, I think Bedford deserved it, I'd love to know the penalty count as Jersey seemed to constantly giving them away, should have had a yellow card for a knockdown in the first half and another for persistent infringement in the 2nd, but it was a great game to watch.




This is an excellent summary. I was also there and have no complaints about the result. Both sides under-performed and made errors which lead to a really competitive match. Jersey had this game done & dusted around the hour mark when they subbed their hooker just after a wonderful pen put them on the Blues 5m line whilst winning by two scores. A real bent throw properly called by the ref who had a good match imo allowed Blues to clear and Jersey always looked like losing after that with a scrum half on the wing. If the game had lasted another 5 minutes I don't think Jersey would have got out of their own half - Blues finished strongly but were never great - just good enough to win. Great hospitality by Blues fans by the lad behind the posts at the bottom of the hill in the first half and the lad from Flitwick who got me back to the station after the match. Great club Blues but I wish they kicked off at 2.30pm - when they play Jersey. The last flight had closed but not left when I got to Gatwick and great wifi on the train allowed me to see Nick Haining in the Scotland game. I disagree with Bedfordian about scrums - the referee gave the penalties because the starting Jersey Tight Head (who imo is the best Non Falcons tight head in the league) was dominant and gave the starting Blues loose head a real working over - but I support Jersey so could easily be wrong.
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From a couple of hundred miles away (Paris - don't ask!) it doesn't seem like the Reds are getting much credit for their contribution to an exciting game. You'd think a side who led for 72 mins & were level for another 4 might have been slightly unfortunate, but equally I defer to those who were present....
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Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

From a couple of hundred miles away (Paris - don't ask!) it doesn't seem like the Reds are getting much credit for their contribution to an exciting game. You'd think a side who led for 72 mins & were level for another 4 might have been slightly unfortunate, but equally I defer to those who were present....

To be honest Islander, I think that both sides contributed to a good encounter. Certainly Jersey can play better, but when you consider how many injuries we have and then others getting injured during the game to leave 3 or 4 of the backs playing totally out of position, it is to their absolute credit that the game finished so close.

Not heard of this one before, but was told by one of the Jersey players. It seemed as though there was still a bit of time left on the clock when the final try was scored. The ref told the kicker that if he waited for 1 min 20 he would blow the final whistle after he kicked. The ref even let him know when time was up. I know that you can ask how long left, but not heard of the ref volunteering the info. The boys were pretty upset with him.

Finishing on a positive note, I thought that Homer looked more dangerous covering the full back position for kicks then he did as a 9, he had a great game, but the Bedford 14 & 15 were outstanding IMHO.
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