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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Aug 2014 at 10:52
Originally posted by jayice jayice wrote:

Hi,

I'll please like t know the average and base salary or wage for a Championship player and the rookie wage for a team like London Scottish?

Thanks alot

Ask a rookie LS player then. You're barking up the wrong tree here (in case you hadn't noticed already).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Aug 2014 at 12:45
Originally posted by HandsintheRuck HandsintheRuck wrote:

Props get the most, backs the least. (On average) I don't know why.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Aug 2014 at 12:46

As an aside, do rugby players get career average taxation treatment in the same way that football players do?

2012/13 RFU accounts show that the whole RFU workforce - admin, players, coaches - pay cost is about £50,700 each excluding NI & Pensions (up from £43,400 2011/12).
 
That's assuming the numbers of staff shown are full time equivalents:
Stadium, Commercial and Administration 248 (11/12 230) ,
Professional Rugby 90 (80),
Rugby Development 253 (245).
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Aug 2014 at 13:05
Originally posted by HandsintheRuck HandsintheRuck wrote:

Props get the most, backs the least. (On average) I don't know why.
 
Supply and demand. There is a shortage of tightheads but a glut of backs - Rugby League has so many of them they field 26 in each game and that is not counting the subs! Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Aug 2014 at 13:22
Last year a player in our neck of the woods was in court for Huckleberryly Pear driving, his lawyer stated that he earned £3000 a month.
He didn't say if that was just during the 9 month playing season,  gross or net, or if the club provided housing as well, but at least it was enough to own a car, get Huckleberryly Pear and pay the fine.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Aug 2014 at 15:25
Originally posted by cpcarrot cpcarrot wrote:

Lots of numbers get banded about concerning playing budgets - my gut feeling is that £1M is probably the figure for a "good" (mid to top table) Championship Club's playing budget - so with a 35 man squad that equates to an average of £28.5K per player - With a large chunk of the squad on much less than that, and a few of the more established players on quite a bit more.

I think you're on the money (sorry - bad pun) cpcarrot. I read an interview with Cornish Pirates' former President / trustee in which he described £1.3m - £1.4m as "good money" for the Championship, but I think that was talking total budget, not just playing budget.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Aug 2014 at 06:24
Originally posted by HandsintheRuck HandsintheRuck wrote:

Props get the most, backs the least. (On average) I don't know why.


I believe it is supply and demand. Good tightheads are a rarity and command some of the best wages at top three tiers. Looseheads are not far behind followed by tall  ( 6`5" plus ) second rows who are mobile , athletic, aggressive, durable, skillful rugby players.

A good flyhalf / goal kicker and recognised try scoring wingers are generally in demand.

Most clubs are very secretive about how much they pay individual players but as in any business all the staff talk and generally know what others are getting and word gets around.

I think a big draw is two year deals .

Props get paid higher wages because of the physical demand . When you get to the championship it just gets incredibly hard in the front row and it takes it`s toll on the player.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Aug 2014 at 07:42
Originally posted by McGee McGee wrote:

Never mind the players, what do the backroom staff get paid? and all the hangers on.


Can't speak for the professional coaching staff, but I can tell you the "hangers on" at Nottingham are all voluntary and, as well as working hard on match days, put many hours in during the week which is all for the love of the club.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Aug 2014 at 09:24
Originally posted by BP BP wrote:

Originally posted by McGee McGee wrote:

Never mind the players, what do the backroom staff get paid? and all the hangers on.


Can't speak for the professional coaching staff, but I can tell you the "hangers on" at Nottingham are all voluntary and, as well as working hard on match days, put many hours in during the week which is all for the love of the club.


The Pirates are exactly the same but so, I should imagine, are most other clubs in this league.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Aug 2014 at 10:41
Clubs wouldn't survive if it wasn't for the staunch supporters who give unpaid time & labour. Clap Long may it last Wink 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Aug 2014 at 09:02
It is great to see that some clubs still have this kind of supporter. Long may it continue.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Aug 2014 at 11:50
Jersey are very blessed, maybe it is because of our unique situation, but in the academy alone we have circa 100 coaches and squad managers who volunteer on a weekly basis, often giving up much of their spare or even holiday time to help our 700 or so academy membership. Without this dedication we would not be able to produce players such as Le Booj, Jack Burrows, Ed Dawson or even Matt Banahan, to name but a few. The standard is getting better and there are more players with some serious talent coming through and it is all down to the clubs investment in coaching the coaches and the coaches love of the game that gets them to do it for nothing.... apart from a well deserved pat on the back.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Aug 2014 at 13:33
Without the "hangers on" Nottingham would be unable to operate. They work bloody hard for no reward other than the pleasure of doing it and deserve a massive vote of thanks from those of us who just turn up to watch. Thank you volunteers, thank you very much.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Aug 2014 at 20:54
I don't actually know but I would be surprised if Worcester did not have a single player on a 6 figure salary next year.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Aug 2014 at 21:46
I can't quite work out what you're saying, but surely Chris Pennell is on quite a good whack ( deservedly ).
Am I agreeing or disagreeing with you?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Aug 2014 at 22:04
Originally posted by Three Pears Three Pears wrote:

I don't actually know but I would be surprised if Worcester did not have a single player on a 6 figure salary next year.


That must be hell!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Aug 2014 at 14:17
Most Academy salaries are a pittance. Was about 8k three years ago and I believe it then went down to in some cases 5k. I know many of the lads have to rely on parents in their early days to follow their dreams. With the Championship it very much depends upon the club you play for. Relegated teams often pay much more to retain players. Also I believe salary caps are only applicable to Premiership sides.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Aug 2014 at 14:37
Actually Wuss's current backers have guaranteed Ryan parity with the Premiership wage cap for his current squad: 
£4.6 million plus £240 k academy credits plus one marquis player.
Given current squad of 38  and no marquis player (Euan Murray released) we're looking at a £5 million pot  with a sliding scale between the top earners like Pennell and Lamb and more realistic wages for squad players.
A good guide would be the last time we were down Pat Sanderson was on about £150K (or rather that's what he told the court when he got done for bald tyres ! ) Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Aug 2014 at 15:39
Working the other way.

15 homes games watched by 2000 punters paying £20 is £600k.
I believe the RFU chuck in another £300k or so.
While you can add sponsorship, parking,  food and beer. 

However, I suspect most clubs are operating on under £2m all in - unless they have a sugar daddy.
So that suggests the average (mean) wage is going to be closer to £25k .
Again I suspect that there is significant skew - so the median will be lower.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Aug 2014 at 18:17
Albion don't pay huge wages I know that. When Mr interfish wash helping out I believe our top earners was about 60k but I'd be surprised if anyone at the clubs on that now. A well established championship player who I will not name signed for 24k with a few bonuses for motm and tries etc. Let's face it, I'm on more than that and I will still be on that in 5 years, not exactly life changing like the spoilt football players.
Your just not thinking 4th dimensionally. Once you hit 88 those indian's won't even be there.
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