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Tyler Gendall (Prop) returns to Pirates from Brizzle.
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Originally posted by Margin_Walker Margin_Walker wrote:

LI don't have serious debt, although their losses aren't sustainable long term. Currently Mick Crossan meets the shortfall although he doesn't have the kind of money Gooley does, so new investment will be required at some point.


Powerday has covered annual deficits of £2m-£3m and the press say may have doubled this season, I understand the yearly cost is £9,000 000 Not debt as such but not sustainable  I think you might agree.
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Guy Armitage joins Ealing from Wasps
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Margin_Walker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Apr 2018 at 20:38
Originally posted by No 7 No 7 wrote:

Originally posted by Margin_Walker Margin_Walker wrote:

LI don't have serious debt, although their losses aren't sustainable long term. Currently Mick Crossan meets the shortfall although he doesn't have the kind of money Gooley does, so new investment will be required at some point.


Powerday has covered annual deficits of £2m-£3m and the press say may have doubled this season, I understand the yearly cost is £9,000 000 Not debt as such but not sustainable  I think you might agree.

Certainly not sustainable (said as much in the post above), point was purely that there is no serious debt at the moment. 

If Ealing were to gain promotion and build a premiership squad, their losses also wouldn't be sustainable outside of the benefactor model you have. Albeit a wealthier one. 

Anyway, hope Armitage does well with you guys. He's bounced around a lot for a bloke in his mid twenties, but the talent and potential is certainly there. 
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Originally posted by Margin_Walker Margin_Walker wrote:

Originally posted by No 7 No 7 wrote:

Originally posted by Margin_Walker Margin_Walker wrote:

LI don't have serious debt, although their losses aren't sustainable long term. Currently Mick Crossan meets the shortfall although he doesn't have the kind of money Gooley does, so new investment will be required at some point.


Powerday has covered annual deficits of £2m-£3m and the press say may have doubled this season, I understand the yearly cost is £9,000 000 Not debt as such but not sustainable  I think you might agree.

Certainly not sustainable (said as much in the post above), point was purely that there is no serious debt at the moment. 

If Ealing were to gain promotion and build a premiership squad, their losses also wouldn't be sustainable outside of the benefactor model you have. Albeit a wealthier one. 

Anyway, hope Armitage does well with you guys. He's bounced around a lot for a bloke in his mid twenties, but the talent and potential is certainly there. 

The distinct difference between Ealing Trailfinders is that the playing / Squad budget is determined prior to the season. When the money is not there Ealing Trailfinders find there level.

This is opposed to London Irish having a deficit / debt and it is paid by Crossan to avoid bankruptcy .
Mike Gooley is a very astute businessman and would not allow overspending. I may be wrong and we will see what happens over the next few seasons.

It is possible that Mike Gooley may want his club to play Championship or even National One rugby. 
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So the difference is that Gooley says 'here is £2m, spend it wisely' at the start of the season, whereas Crossan says 'here's £2m to cover what you lost' at the end.
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Off topic again
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mark W-J Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Apr 2018 at 08:34
I think it'd be simpler to change the title of the thread.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote OldNick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Apr 2018 at 08:55
Originally posted by Mark W-J Mark W-J wrote:

I think it'd be simpler to change the title of the thread.
Please don't. There is good information in here, amongst the repetitive dross.
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Originally posted by No 7 No 7 wrote:

Originally posted by Margin_Walker Margin_Walker wrote:

Originally posted by No 7 No 7 wrote:

Originally posted by Margin_Walker Margin_Walker wrote:

LI don't have serious debt, although their losses aren't sustainable long term. Currently Mick Crossan meets the shortfall although he doesn't have the kind of money Gooley does, so new investment will be required at some point.


Powerday has covered annual deficits of £2m-£3m and the press say may have doubled this season, I understand the yearly cost is £9,000 000 Not debt as such but not sustainable  I think you might agree.

Certainly not sustainable (said as much in the post above), point was purely that there is no serious debt at the moment. 

If Ealing were to gain promotion and build a premiership squad, their losses also wouldn't be sustainable outside of the benefactor model you have. Albeit a wealthier one. 

Anyway, hope Armitage does well with you guys. He's bounced around a lot for a bloke in his mid twenties, but the talent and potential is certainly there. 

The distinct difference between Ealing Trailfinders is that the playing / Squad budget is determined prior to the season. When the money is not there Ealing Trailfinders find there level.

This is opposed to London Irish having a deficit / debt and it is paid by Crossan to avoid bankruptcy .
Mike Gooley is a very astute businessman and would not allow overspending. I may be wrong and we will see what happens over the next few seasons.

It is possible that Mike Gooley may want his club to play Championship or even National One rugby. 
It would be interesting to see how both these sides match up, this season regarding final squads, with budgets potentially looking increasingly similar in size. Some would say, with the loss of Lewington & Cokanasiga for Irish. Trailfinders side may even match the Exiles.
 


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[QUOTE=KnightsBoy] Off topic again [/QUOTE

I have heard that Joe Simpson is coming to Ealing . Obviously it is subject to an agreed contract and Money ......budget and where the money comes from .


I have been told that both Cipiriani and Haskell have been in contact with Ealing Trailfinders but again the cost / budget contraints are paramount.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote No 7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Apr 2018 at 15:25
Originally posted by OldNick OldNick wrote:

Originally posted by Mark W-J Mark W-J wrote:

I think it'd be simpler to change the title of the thread.

Please don't. There is good information in here, amongst the repetitive dross.


Superb contribution Oldnick keep up the good work

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Cornish Pirates sign Argentinian international Javier Alvarez on a one year contract.
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To Ealing Ben West 2nd row from Yorkshire and Matt Beesley front row from northampton
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Nic Rouse joining London Scottish as Head Coach according to LS website
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Jordan Burns scrum half Bedford David Johnston back Munster and Ryan Foley scrum half somewhere in France salad Nicoise I think! all sign for Ealing
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Another player from Bedford Blues to Ealing, can't blame them but I think its time for Bedford to realise that players have ambition and maybe Bedford don't show enough. The club are unable to hold onto players, why? No ambition or forward vision.
Bedford will have to start again with a new team, this happens every season.
 
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NZ23 - I think it's more to do with lack of money rather than lack of ambition...  Ealing have picked up players from a number of clubs in this league and others, so I don't think it's a Bedford problem - other than being victims of their own success...!

It looks like Ealing are building a team from scratch, which may affect their early season form - the league could be won by the team that gets out of the blocks quickest.
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Two departures from Coventry, both apparently retiring from this level of rugby.

Prop Andy Brown & centre, Alex Grove, are both stepping down, both citing increasing work and family commitments.
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