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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jul 2020 at 09:55
The 'community' clubs which are at most risk are those whose hubristic management have incurred large and unavoidable overheads, normally by the ambitious overdevelopment of their fixed assets, usually in pursuit of the Impossible Dream. This is a tragedy, although in most cases understandable, which afflicts several of my own club's best friends. I do hope that other clubs with such plans in the pipeline will think very carefully before going ahead.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jul 2020 at 10:01
The issue revolves around local council withdrawing from the £20m Sports Village project on the pitches outside the Arena. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jul 2020 at 13:13
While that is understandable in the current climate with most if not all local authorities having their budgets squeezed that would throw any club into complete disarray and is hardly mismanagement if you are going along a projected road to come against a funding withdrawal I would say it is only negligent if you have paid out the money before you get it but that again is what most businesses do
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jul 2020 at 16:40
Originally posted by Neasham Neasham wrote:

The issue revolves around local council withdrawing from the £20m Sports Village project on the pitches outside the Arena. 

I understand this to be a minor issue 


Edited by front5 - 22 Aug 2020 at 15:03
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jul 2020 at 20:24
£20m a minor issue? I think that is pretty significant Front 5!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jul 2020 at 08:48
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jul 2020 at 16:55
Originally posted by backrowb backrowb wrote:

Originally posted by TigerTitan TigerTitan wrote:

dmp are selling the stadium to a chinese owner 
Check your device. Suspect you have a virus

It's not his device that has the virus.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Aug 2020 at 14:28
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Aug 2020 at 20:02
Originally posted by Flish Flish wrote:

Originally posted by Neasham Neasham wrote:

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/18569968.darlington-council-set-drop-20m-sports-village-plan/

Which has some pretty major inaccuracies, hence the statement at https://www.mowdenpark.com/news/club-statement--darlington-sports-village-2549031.html 


Yes I read that at the time. Not a lot of detail about what was actually inaccurate. It was reassuring to read that long term finances are sound but then an extraordinary general meeting is called.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Aug 2020 at 20:06
Originally posted by Neasham Neasham wrote:

Originally posted by Flish Flish wrote:

Originally posted by Neasham Neasham wrote:

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/18569968.darlington-council-set-drop-20m-sports-village-plan/

Which has some pretty major inaccuracies, hence the statement at https://www.mowdenpark.com/news/club-statement--darlington-sports-village-2549031.html 


Yes I read that at the time. Not a lot of detail about what was actually inaccurate. It was reassuring to read that long term finances are sound but then an extraordinary general meeting is called.

My point about this being  minor issue was this was money assisgned for a development which to date has not happened. As such can't miss money you never had and any business plan based around proposed investments is always destined to fail
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Aug 2020 at 20:42
Originally posted by front5 front5 wrote:

Originally posted by Neasham Neasham wrote:

Originally posted by Flish Flish wrote:

Originally posted by Neasham Neasham wrote:

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/18569968.darlington-council-set-drop-20m-sports-village-plan/

Which has some pretty major inaccuracies, hence the statement at https://www.mowdenpark.com/news/club-statement--darlington-sports-village-2549031.html 


Yes I read that at the time. Not a lot of detail about what was actually inaccurate. It was reassuring to read that long term finances are sound but then an extraordinary general meeting is called.

My point about this being  minor issue was this was money assisgned for a development which to date has not happened. As such can't miss money you never had and any business plan based around proposed investments is always destined to fail

You can miss revenue you were expecting to generate as part of a longer term business plan. Never been a DMP member just a fairly frequent spectator so will have to rely on others for updates. Hopefully all will be well. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Aug 2020 at 22:26
http://www.plymouthalbion.com/latest-news/a-letter-to-the-rfu/

This might not be received too well as some of the points are probably valid.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Aug 2020 at 23:00
Originally posted by The Joy of (Level) 7 The Joy of (Level) 7 wrote:

http://www.plymouthalbion.com/latest-news/a-letter-to-the-rfu/

This might not be received too well as some of the points are probably valid.


Having just read through the letter I am sure it will go down well at HQ.

I suspect a lot of people would have more sympathy if Plymouth hadn't recently been in Administration (was this the first time?) and exited it still owing a lot of local people/businesses the majority of what they were entitled to.

Just to say, this is just my personal opinion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Aug 2020 at 09:14
Originally posted by The Joy of (Level) 7 The Joy of (Level) 7 wrote:

http://www.plymouthalbion.com/latest-news/a-letter-to-the-rfu/

This might not be received too well as some of the points are probably valid.
I bit too flowery and bit "me, me" IMHO, but can't really argue with any of the messages being put across (once you can find them).


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Aug 2020 at 09:56
I have done my best to feel some sympathy for Plymouth Albion but taking account of the way they gamed the system to leave creditors unpaid, I have totally failed to find any. To my mind the RFU were complicit, the Regulations in place at the time conniving at bringing the Game into disrepute.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Aug 2020 at 10:38
Are they talking about last years travel money?
If not and it is this seasons then its no financial sanction at all given the RFU have withdrawn support for the NCA and there won't be any travel money.

Enjoyed reading the letter, ignore the actual 'offence' and the general tone puts across perfectly the problems clubs face when ever dealing with the RFU.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Aug 2020 at 14:45

I would imagine whoever receives the lecture letter will fall asleep long before they get to the end.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Aug 2020 at 16:04
I have a bit of sympathy but not a lot. I've done my Club;'s Return for the last two years and made sure I asked the questions before I hit the final button. Last year, which is the year they are being punished for, also required 4 people to physically sign a document so how are those 4 dealing with their failure to ensure the return was correct?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Aug 2020 at 21:27
I am sorry but if it takes 4 people to sign off a return it is obviously too complicated, this is an amateur at best semi - pro sport, run by enthusiasts and amateurs. Yes flagrant breaking of the rules should be punished but not simple clerical errors . . come on. Rams and PA have been very very harshly treated, and to impose a fine on either club at these times is simply madness . . .. I wonder what salary sacrifice Sweeney Todd has made?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Aug 2020 at 22:03
As I understand it one person should be able to fill it in.
The other three merely need to check and sign it. 

The idea is that all four are declaring the form is correct.
I would hope you can fix it up until the point all four have signed. 
However, as I am not on the committee I have not seen the interface.
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