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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jun 2019 at 14:37
Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by Fat Albert Fat Albert wrote:

Talking about next season

#folauAmpthill...


Hope he does get back into rugby, here's hoping his lawsuit is successful.

#IsraelFolauDidNothingWrong


Were not going down that avenue.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jun 2019 at 15:07
Originally posted by dropout22 dropout22 wrote:

They deserve their promotion ofcourse, i'm just unsure how we can be in a professional divison where a club doesn't have seats or a stand. Am I right in thinking the changing rooms etc are in a different location to the pitch?.


Yes, through the woods and down a footpath in the clubhouse.

Wise teams stay out ion the pitch, particularly for winter matches, so that their low light vision isn’t wrecked by going indoors where there is electric lighting.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jun 2019 at 15:24
Originally posted by dropout22 dropout22 wrote:

They deserve their promotion ofcourse, i'm just unsure how we can be in a professional divison where a club doesn't have seats or a stand. Am I right in thinking the changing rooms etc are in a different location to the pitch?.
 

Professional division in which clubs keep outspending their resources and going bust.    Players and fans should stop being so precious. It is either safe to play rugby on or it isn't. The safety of Joe Bloggs, ACME  RUFC 4ths is every bit as important as a higher level player.

So what if it's a hike to the pitches - it is what it is. Man up and move on.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jun 2019 at 16:25
Originally posted by backrowb backrowb wrote:

So what if it's a hike to the pitches - it is what it is. Man up and move on.
 
It's really quite pleasant.
 
I would say that their spectator parking is a greater issue probably solved by the judicious use of stewards and chatting up the football club next door.
 
Good luck to them, it will be an eye opener to everyone concerned - is this how we get new players through Mini & Youth?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jun 2019 at 16:45
You can see on the google maps link I posted earlier.
The walk is probably shorter than the one at OEs - especially to the second pitch.
It is on a par with Bishop Stortford or London Welsh.
Except it is just uphill and you cannot see the pitch so it seems like you are heading off into the woods with no hope of return.
But it really is not that far.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jun 2019 at 16:54
For the journey between clubhouse and pitch at Ampthill I find the OS Map app on my phone useful.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jun 2019 at 18:13
This is how The Times described Ampthill's current set up: 

The clubhouse is small, neat, warm welcome, lovely bar upstairs. The walk takes you through public parkland and a path with bracken on either side. And there before you is one of the more beautiful rugby pitches in the country, an amphitheatre built into the hill, overlooking the Bedfordshire countryside. No stand, no floodlights, no trappings of the big time. 

If it is good enough for "The Thunderer" it is good enough for Cov, Hartpury and even Newcastle Falcons. You are lucky to be getting the chance to play rugby in such an idyllic setting in my view.Tongue

I will be sad when we move to our new purpose built Rugby "stadium" on the other side of the railway line, because the current set up is a great place to watch rugby.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jun 2019 at 18:24
Small points ( and I've never been) but how much are spectators charged and what is the approved/authorised capacity of the current ground?

Also can people wander in from this beautiful countryside or is the arena fenced off?

Ampthill has got there on merit but at this level it is not unreasonable to raise the issues seen on this forum.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jun 2019 at 18:37
I have not seen anyone criticising the prettiness of the pitches, not the friendliness of the clubhouse at any point.

The question has purely been whether it is fit to receive a safety license when medical facilities at pitchside are so lacking. The apologists say that this has only been a problem once. Neck injuries are serious things, and once is not acceptable.

As we left the ground that day, an elderly Coventry supporter with mobility difficulties was grumbling about the incident as he struggled down the path. An Ampthill supporter had a go at him for moaning, saying it was only the score that mattered, and “besides, nobody died”.

At tha stage the Coventry player with a neck injury had not yet reached hospital.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jun 2019 at 20:07
As Blues were mentioned in an earlier post, to try and get another change in topic post ;) you can see on Companies House that the last 3 years the change in in the profit and loss account has been:

June 2016 loss £16,272
June 2017 profit £33,684 
June 2018 profit £73,336 

Looks like we are building a sustainable model to go forward, which has been a long aim and I am sure a lot of clubs would like those results both on and off the pitch.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jun 2019 at 20:44
Yes there is now a fence round the arena and you do need to pay to enter at the gate at the top of the hill.
There is a bar, a cafe and toilets up on the hill. The bar reusable plastic cups with a £1 deposit which is redeemable if you return the cup.
And there a number of benches and picnic tables.
They now have a doctor on staff and I am sure they could arrange to have an ambulance on stand by if that is required.
 
Even though the last two seasons we have had merely appalling weather and a named storm,, it is still one of my favourite away venues.

However, parking is always tight when we visit, I have ended up on the side of the road.
Not sure how well they will cope when Bedford visit. They should bring a larger crowd and they will come by car. Newcastle may bring more, but I suspect they will be in coaches. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jun 2019 at 21:58
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

Not sure how well they will cope when Bedford visit. They should bring a larger crowd and they will come by car. Newcastle may bring more, but I suspect they will be in coaches. 


Bedfordians can catch the Number 42 bus ( 3 times an hour but regularly vanishes ) or suffer a 2 mile hike from Flitwick station.

Car parking is a real issue, it wouldn't be too far removed from the truth to say I moved to Ampthill to specifically alleviate that problem and bought my house because it is a 10 min minute walk to the club. Just like the guy in Fever Pitch.

The move to the new ground will add 15 minutes to my walk so I am not best pleased.

The club car park is full just with the cars of players and officials and always has been, when no one watched us that wasn't an issue. But I would suggest that no one visiting even thinks of trying that they have no chance.

Parking on the verges outside is out now as the council have installed sturdy wooden posts well embedded into the ground all the way along the road in the grass verge. 

There is a long stay free car park on the Maulden road by the church that would probably suffice as practically no one uses it and it is only a 10 minute walk to the club house from there.

There is a car park in Ampthill Park across the road but it isn't huge and is usually full with dog walkers on a Saturday anyway, that is where I used to park when I lived in Hitchin but that got increasingly difficult to find room in after the promotion to Nat 1.

I suggest people park in Station Road which is long, wide and free to park on and then walk back through the woods from the opposite direction which would take about 5 mins and is very pretty and you walk alongside the pitch for much of it so if you are late you can watch the match for free before you pay to get in at the gate.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jun 2019 at 22:29
So I take it that everybody on here whining about Ampthill are in agreement with the Premiership's ground criteria then?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Jun 2019 at 09:59
Joking aside, the club, as always, had already responded to issues raised in this thread and from other sources.

There will be pitch side medical facilities for the Championship, another temporary building with access for stretchers and wheelchairs manned by the doctor and a support team. And yes, the plan is to have a paramedics vehicle on site.

There will also be power, water and hopefully, WiFi

Please bear in mind that the new ground, if it b goes ahead (haven't even got planning yet) won't be ready until 2021/22 at the earliest.

There may even be some temporary seating for those with sensitive ankles...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Jun 2019 at 11:08
Originally posted by Fat Albert Fat Albert wrote:

Joking aside, the club, as always, had already responded to issues raised in this thread and from other sources.

There will be pitch side medical facilities for the Championship, another temporary building with access for stretchers and wheelchairs manned by the doctor and a support team. And yes, the plan is to have a paramedics vehicle on site.

There will also be power, water and hopefully, WiFi

Please bear in mind that the new ground, if it b goes ahead (haven't even got planning yet) won't be ready until 2021/22 at the earliest.

There may even be some temporary seating for those with sensitive ankles...

All good and sensible.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Jun 2019 at 11:57
I too am looking forward to my first visit to that club, hoping for an early / late season fixture
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Jun 2019 at 14:32
To Fat Albert et al

Enjoy yourself in the championship you will meet some great fans 
As far as I am concerned your club won the right on the rugby pitch

Christmas game v Bedford ?

I had 3 great years I even enjoyed travelling back from Pirates in the early hours of Monday morning 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Jun 2019 at 17:29
Member you might still be doing that journey this year!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Jun 2019 at 22:47
Okay, so if you have one problem then you have a problem. If you have two problems then you might have a solution. Ampthill has pitch issues, and Leeds has a pitch but no team...roll on Ampthill Carnegie! I can't wait to watch the Ampthill Carnegie Tongans vs. Glostolpury College at Emerald Headingley.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jun 2019 at 09:07
Thanks for posting that update Fat Albert. I am glad to see that the club has taken the issues seriously and has acted to resolve them.
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