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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote islander Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Mar 2020 at 20:28
Absurd that people think Marler's act being highlighted & eventually the subject of a citing had anything to do with AWJ. It was a stupid thing to do & would have been picked up regardless of the reaction by the 'fondlee'


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Clive Norling Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Mar 2020 at 21:58
Originally posted by Mark W-J Mark W-J wrote:

Originally posted by Exiled in Mann Exiled in Mann wrote:

On the same basis I would have yellow carded the Scottish 6 on Sunday as I thought it was him coming flying in when there was nothing really going on that kicked it all off.  

Absolutely agree with this.  I'd have done the same.


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That's what I like about this forum, we get numerous responces ranging from Pappashanga's total over reaction (knifed!), the moral high ground (think of the kids!) to humour and a more reasoned realistic view.

Marler will probably recieve a ban, fuelled by the media and Alun's serious reaction. The concentration on the Marler incident has taken us away from the fact that Alun appears to becoming a grumpy old man.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote geralltrugby Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2020 at 07:53
Don’t see why you’re singling AWJ out. Farrel and EJ aren’t averse to questioning referees in fact Eddie accused the official of being on Wales side after the game. Marler behaves like an idiot and will hopefully be dealt with appropriately. If that had happened to me in my playing days I would not have been as calm as AWJ.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote fatbear Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2020 at 08:28
I have seen a picture that shows the French prop being gauged in the eyes by Haining, and he then punched the wrong guy...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote knightandday Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2020 at 08:36
Originally posted by fatbear fatbear wrote:

I have seen a picture that shows the French prop being gauged in the eyes by Haining, and he then punched the wrong guy...


Because he couldn't see properly?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2020 at 09:50
Originally posted by Pappashanga Pappashanga wrote:

If you did that in any other context you'd be in real trouble. In certain contexts you might get knifed. It was deliberate and being over 18, Marler deserves to take the consequences.
What would be the attitude in women's rugby if another player fondled someone's breasts? Hell to pay I would think. A rugby match is not a licence for Indecent Assault.

Well last year my daughter had her bottom tweaked in a ruck and the player then blew a kiss at her when they got up - that was a U18 match and she did it to at least 2 other players as well.

They were just "whatever" - the girls are lot less sensitive about things like that than men it seems


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Originally posted by Sid James Sid James wrote:

 The concentration on the Marler incident has taken us away from the fact that Alun appears to becoming a grumpy old man.

He is changing his name to Alun Whinging Jones .....Suits him 👍
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote pen 15 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2020 at 10:27
Originally posted by Sid James Sid James wrote:

That's what I like about this forum, we get numerous responces ranging from Pappashanga's total over reaction (knifed!), the moral high ground (think of the kids!) to humour and a more reasoned realistic view.

Marler will probably recieve a ban, fuelled by the media and Alun's serious reaction. The concentration on the Marler incident has taken us away from the fact that Alun appears to becoming a grumpy old man.
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If only we could think of a witty play on his name to reflect that fact that he's always whingeing...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mark W-J Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2020 at 10:38
Originally posted by Mark W-J Mark W-J wrote:

If only we could think of a witty play on his name to reflect that fact that he's always whingeing...

Hang on , I've got it.

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Originally posted by geralltrugby geralltrugby wrote:

Don’t see why you’re singling AWJ out. Farrel and EJ aren’t averse to questioning referees in fact Eddie accused the official of being on Wales side after the game. Marler behaves like an idiot and will hopefully be dealt with appropriately. If that had happened to me in my playing days I would not have been as calm as AWJ.
 
Yes, others moan and question the ref but, I singled out AWJ as he is in a class of his own.
 
"Marler behaves like an idiot and will hopefully be dealt with appropriately" - what is your view of 'dealt with appropriately'? Publicly flogged?
 
I assume that AWJ kept his calm out of professionalism and because he is captain of Wales, which you are not.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sid James Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2020 at 12:07
Originally posted by Dad Dad wrote:

Originally posted by Pappashanga Pappashanga wrote:

If you did that in any other context you'd be in real trouble. In certain contexts you might get knifed. It was deliberate and being over 18, Marler deserves to take the consequences.
What would be the attitude in women's rugby if another player fondled someone's breasts? Hell to pay I would think. A rugby match is not a licence for Indecent Assault.

Well last year my daughter had her bottom tweaked in a ruck and the player then blew a kiss at her when they got up - that was a U18 match and she did it to at least 2 other players as well.

They were just "whatever" - the girls are lot less sensitive about things like that than men it seems
 
Well done that girl.
She could probably teach a thing or two to our 'more serious', 'state the obvious' Forum members.
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Fondle (def): to touch gently and in a loving way [see also caress, pet]
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Originally posted by FHLH FHLH wrote:

<i style="">Fondle (def): to touch gently and in a loving way [see also caress, pet]


A good description of Marler on Jones.

Bearing in mind the entry level of 12 weeks is for an aggressive act, I think a 4 week ban, a severe warning and a fine donated to a charity of Thomas's choice would be a reasonable punishment

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Friendly prop Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2020 at 13:31
Originally posted by Mark W-J Mark W-J wrote:

Originally posted by Mark W-J Mark W-J wrote:

If only we could think of a witty play on his name to reflect that fact that he's always whingeing...

Hang on , I've got it.

Alun Wyn MOANS!

Nah It's Alun Whinge owns
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pappashanga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2020 at 14:22
I missed all this friendly byplay when I was playing rugby. My wife did ask me recently why the players are always cuddling each other. I'll direct her to some of these answers.
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Verdict on Marler has been released and it's a 10 week ban. It's about what I suspected was coming, but the few weeks mitigation for remorse seems somewhat lenient given his tweet.

I'm sure many may see it as harsh, but he was very foolish to put himself in that position and there was little choice given the sentencing guidelines in the laws




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sid James Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Mar 2020 at 23:41
10 weeks for a playful tweak is pathetic. Media fuelled over reaction. What will they do when something serious happens?

Danny Care's comments in the BBC news report are correct, "I think anyone involved in rugby, things like that are seen as a joke. It's seen as a bit of banter. I don't see an awful lot wrong with it."
Paul Gustard also hits the nail on the head regarding the media.
Pivac has to support his captain and both can now stand tall on the moral high ground, safe in the knowledge that they have done something to protect our country's young men from having a sense of humour.

On this basis, Haouas must get a life ban and three years in jail. He punched someone in the head. A dangerous physical assault!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Onion Hawk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Mar 2020 at 23:58
With all due respect, Sid moans about officiating, decisions and the officials on a weekly basis, I’m not entirely sure he is a good barometer for what is right and judicious here.  Minimum ban for the offence is 12 weeks, maximum 208 weeks, he got 10.  

It was stupid and all to do with it being the Marler show than anything else.  The game needs characters, I’m not sure it needs clowns.

Should the French lad have got more, probably.


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