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    Posted: 31 Aug 2015 at 23:15
To ensure that people signing up up to the board are not spammers I check to see which club they support and a couple of other things.

A couple of new joiners recently may be genuine fans of the the game but they have not provided any real info to go on so I have not authorised their membership.

If you think this could be you, check your account and answer the questions with more than a question mark.

Also I don't authorise rude words or deviations of as user names. 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote greenpower Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Sep 2015 at 09:08
richard a lot of members dont give names or clubs they support  so they too must have something to hide  so its not just new members    who should be policed 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote islander Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Sep 2015 at 13:13
GP: I think you could certainly say that some people hide behind an anonymous user name. Interesting to know their reasons for doing so.
 
It would be an interesting survey to ask users:
  1. should RM require users to provide their real name, which would be available to other registered members but not publicly broadcast? yes/no
  2. if RM insisted users provide their real name, would your future contribution be a) the same as now b) slightly modified c ) significantly modified d) non-existent or e) not applicable because my real name has already been provided?

I'm an 'e' on q2, and leaning towards 'yes' on q1

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RedOrDead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Sep 2015 at 13:32
A better question would be how would you verify that users provide their real name islander!

greenpower, if long standing members haven't spammed the board by now, I don't think that they're likely to start doing so out of the blue.
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I might now you've said that....

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote stonehousealbion Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Sep 2015 at 17:32
Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

I might now you've said that.... Thumbs Up

There's always one, eh?

But isn't the gist of this that you can be a non-specific, anonymous poster - but that you have to disclose to RL (behind the board) sufficient unique personal information to ensure you are not a spammer or spamming programme?
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Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

GP: I think you could certainly say that some people hide behind an anonymous user name. Interesting to know their reasons for doing so.
 
It would be an interesting survey to ask users:
  1. should RM require users to provide their real name, which would be available to other registered members but not publicly broadcast? yes/no
  2. if RM insisted users provide their real name, would your future contribution be a) the same as now b) slightly modified c ) significantly modified d) non-existent or e) not applicable because my real name has already been provided?

I'm an 'e' on q2, and leaning towards 'yes' on q1


Islander,

It is obvious from your User Name and location that you support Jersey (as I do) but this is not stated on your profile. Wink

My vote for your survey is 1. Yes and 2. 'e'
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote islander Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Sep 2015 at 13:00
Originally posted by RedOrDead RedOrDead wrote:

A better question would be how would you verify that users provide their real name islander!

 
swerving 2 questions and responding with a different one - accomplished political skills RoD! Wink
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Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Originally posted by RedOrDead RedOrDead wrote:

A better question would be how would you verify that users provide their real name islander!

 
swerving 2 questions and responding with a different one - accomplished political skills RoD! Wink

Why thank you! The thread has received seven replies and over eight hundred views, so I don't think I'm the only one swerving the question! Without an answer to my question, your proposed survey is only hypothetical, so I stand by it.

FWIW, I'm a fan of users being able to be anonymous for a couple of reasons. It prevents a culture of judging people on the basis of who they are rather than what they have to say. It also enables people to speak their mind without fear of recrimination (most rugby clubs are something of a microcosm) - we are still governed by board rules, so unacceptable posts will be removed and in extreme cases the offending user banned.

On occasions, knowing who a poster is can be useful as it adds credibility to claims they are making, but for the most part, this is unnecessary if posters state the source of their information. This is something that I would like to see become a requirement (even if it is just "a bloke in the pub told me") - some bold claims from certain posters which appear designed to provoke a reaction really wind me up.

Coming full circle, another reason that I would like to know the answer to my question is that on occasion I suspect that we have had posters claiming to be someone who they are not, which IMO is an utterly reprehensible thing to do as these posters have been borderline trolls.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FHLH Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Sep 2015 at 16:12

6,437 RoD? How many of those were in 'ignore'?

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"in 'ignore'"? Sorry, I don't follow you.

Speaking of which, what are these points and how does one accrue them?
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Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

GP: I think you could certainly say that some people hide behind an anonymous user name. Interesting to know their reasons for doing so.
 

It would be an interesting survey to ask users:


  1. should RM require users to provide their real name, which would be available to other registered members but not publicly broadcast? yes/no

  2. if RM insisted users provide their real name, would your future contribution be a) the same as now b) slightly modified c ) significantly modified d) non-existent or e) not applicable because my real name has already been provided?

I'm an 'e' on q2, and leaning towards 'yes' on q1

Probably 'Yes' and 'A'.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote islander Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Sep 2015 at 20:56
Regret I can't really answer your return query RoD, as I don't know that much about the technicalities of establishing a forum user's authenticity. I suspect there is a way, but that it is probably too labour-intensive for a site like RM run by volunteers (especially on Richard's birthday!). If providing a real name was to become a requirement, it would probably have to be on the basis of 'on trust', and - as so often in life - the minority would probably spoil it for the majority; even if suspected miscreants were investigated and turfed out, they'd probably try and return in another guise.

Overall I think it works ok as it is, albeit that you get a certain level of mischief. But you can spot Jonny come latelies and treat their posts with some scepticism until they prove themselves, so I don't see it as a major problem, just indulging in a bit of interaction ahead of the rugby starting...
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I'm a member of a number of forums on a wide range of subjects, in my experience not only does this forum have the least trolling/bad taste posts of any I frequent, it also has the highest level of respect from contributors to both each other and the board owner. 

The root of the word discipline is the word disciple, a disciple is one who follows another's example, in this case all possible credit is due to Richard for setting that example.

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There are, of course a few exceptions to the general rule, any topic about the RFU produces wholesale criticism, some of it uninformed and there are one of two contributors whose posting style is inflammatory, especially when posting about local rivals Wink 

As for the topic, I do not think that contributors should be forced to provide real names, as that will likely result in less honesty rather than more. Can you imagine someone with internal knowledge of the latest RFU cock up making that information public if they could be identified? It has happened here!

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Well said Fat Albert ClapClap
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Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

Well said Fat Albert ClapClap

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Old Hooker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Sep 2015 at 09:53
What is spamming ????????????

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fake_Shemp Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Sep 2015 at 10:25
Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

Well said Fat Albert ClapClap
I completely agree.

I'm a moderator at another forum and people only find out other members' real names if they put them at the end of private messages, use them as the username (which is unusual) or trade with them, so they know the name and address.

With a core team of established members, spammers are easy to identify and dissuade from posting – either through telling them or notifying a moderator (or both) – so I'm not sure knowing real names, which could be made up anyway, would prevent that. As Fat Albert says, it's a case of leading by example.
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