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Originally posted by Deva Delinquent Deva Delinquent wrote:

Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

Vaccines are imminent, could be within a month but not enough available for the whole country to start off with, these will be in the shape of the Flu vaccine so be required annually to adapt to the mutations in the virus. If (and it is a big if) we can get enough vaccines out  to the general population I would guess a very earl Spring or late Winter is feasible. Hope springs eternal Smile


The last indication I saw was that the vaccine would probably be needed at least twice a year to maintain antibodies. I would suggest March/April is most likely for a start if it happens at all.

At the moment we are closer to a full lockdown than further opening up of restrictions.


They do a full lockdown, there will be a riot. Quite rightly, most of the south will argue why should they be punished for the Government's failures?


There, fixed that for you 👍


It's not the government spreading the virus its W******s who don't stick to the rules and idiots who risk their citizens lives trying to extract more money than other places to agree to enter tier 3.

Virtually every problem area is a large conurbation. They should be locked down and use the army to stop people travelling out of them (as they did in Northern Italy)
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Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

 
It's not the government spreading the virus its W******s who don't stick to the rules and idiots who risk their citizens lives trying to extract more money than other places to agree to enter tier 3.

Virtually every problem area is a large conurbation. They should be locked down and use the army to stop people travelling out of them (as they did in Northern Italy)

I'd be interested to know if you can tell me exactly what the 'rules' are.  The various Statutory Instruments aren't updated frequently enough or properly collated, Government ministers (including the PM) get them wrong when asked about them.  Which isn't that surprising given both competence issues and the fact that some of the regulations don't really make sense.  And let's not mention the government pulled out all the stops to defend someone that the vast majority of people think broke the far more straightforward rules earlier in the pandemic and fundamentally undermined trust in the system. 

I don't understand the English reluctance to discuss politics when this country's response to C-19 is, of course, driven by political considerations.  Here in Bristol we have the relatively small indoor venue of the Theatre Royal open at 35% capacity but are unable to allow a 25% attendance at the very large outdoor venue of Ashton Gate which can operate with a one-way system and social distancing.  A state of affairs compounded by the illogical position that people were allowed to watch the European Cup Final on the big screen indoors in the restaurant whilst the game was going on literally yards away.

There are always risks and cost/benefits for all decisions.  The problem with C-19 is that one of the costs and risks is that lots of people die (have died).  But how those risks and the costs are assessed is down to the government and is necessarily political.  I believe that without a vaccine and an effective Test, Track and Isolate system we won't be seeing professional rugby with crowds back before next spring.  I think it unlikely that the Championship will restart in December because we are likely to be in another lockdown (which really needs a working track and trace) unless it has a testing program at least as good as the Premiership.  Which will be scuppered by another lockdown of course.
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Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Ealing vs. Newcastle match on the 7th will go ahead with no fans. They are making ot available to stream for £10. Personally, I am gutted. Given that the local wendyball club down the road is allowed 500 fans per match, I dont see why at least season ticket holders couldnt have been allowed. Not sure if I will stream, or stand at the fence where I know there is a good view.


Tempting but I will pay for the match anyway, all suport needed even if we are one of the lucky ones with a wealthy benefactor. Question for the forum: will any non Ealing or Falcons supporters be purchasing the pay per view or is that a step too far?
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Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Deva Delinquent Deva Delinquent wrote:

Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

Vaccines are imminent, could be within a month but not enough available for the whole country to start off with, these will be in the shape of the Flu vaccine so be required annually to adapt to the mutations in the virus. If (and it is a big if) we can get enough vaccines out  to the general population I would guess a very earl Spring or late Winter is feasible. Hope springs eternal Smile


The last indication I saw was that the vaccine would probably be needed at least twice a year to maintain antibodies. I would suggest March/April is most likely for a start if it happens at all.

At the moment we are closer to a full lockdown than further opening up of restrictions.


They do a full lockdown, there will be a riot. Quite rightly, most of the south will argue why should they be punished for the Government's failures?


There, fixed that for you 👍


It's not the government spreading the virus its W******s who don't stick to the rules and idiots who risk their citizens lives trying to extract more money than other places to agree to enter tier 3.

Virtually every problem area is a large conurbation. They should be locked down and use the army to stop people travelling out of them (as they did in Northern Italy)

You're correct, the Government aren't spreading the virus, but they are making a complete hash of running the country whilst all this is going on. They are unable to get passed their own hubris to navigate us safely through the pandemic.

The actions of the government and its cronies are lamentable. 
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Originally posted by Deva Delinquent Deva Delinquent wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Deva Delinquent Deva Delinquent wrote:

Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

Vaccines are imminent, could be within a month but not enough available for the whole country to start off with, these will be in the shape of the Flu vaccine so be required annually to adapt to the mutations in the virus. If (and it is a big if) we can get enough vaccines out  to the general population I would guess a very earl Spring or late Winter is feasible. Hope springs eternal Smile


The last indication I saw was that the vaccine would probably be needed at least twice a year to maintain antibodies. I would suggest March/April is most likely for a start if it happens at all.

At the moment we are closer to a full lockdown than further opening up of restrictions.


They do a full lockdown, there will be a riot. Quite rightly, most of the south will argue why should they be punished for the Government's failures?


There, fixed that for you 👍


It's not the government spreading the virus its W******s who don't stick to the rules and idiots who risk their citizens lives trying to extract more money than other places to agree to enter tier 3.

Virtually every problem area is a large conurbation. They should be locked down and use the army to stop people travelling out of them (as they did in Northern Italy)


You're correct, the Government aren't spreading the virus, but they are making a complete hash of running the country whilst all this is going on. They are unable to get passed their own hubris to navigate us safely through the pandemic.

The actions of the government and its cronies are lamentable. 


I cannot believe anyone would seriously believe Labour would have made a better job of it. Or anyother party for that matter. The SNP are equally as bad.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fly Half Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct 2020 at 14:04
Originally posted by Deva Delinquent Deva Delinquent wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Deva Delinquent Deva Delinquent wrote:

Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

Vaccines are imminent, could be within a month but not enough available for the whole country to start off with, these will be in the shape of the Flu vaccine so be required annually to adapt to the mutations in the virus. If (and it is a big if) we can get enough vaccines out  to the general population I would guess a very earl Spring or late Winter is feasible. Hope springs eternal Smile


The last indication I saw was that the vaccine would probably be needed at least twice a year to maintain antibodies. I would suggest March/April is most likely for a start if it happens at all.

At the moment we are closer to a full lockdown than further opening up of restrictions.


They do a full lockdown, there will be a riot. Quite rightly, most of the south will argue why should they be punished for the Government's failures?


There, fixed that for you 👍


It's not the government spreading the virus its W******s who don't stick to the rules and idiots who risk their citizens lives trying to extract more money than other places to agree to enter tier 3.

Virtually every problem area is a large conurbation. They should be locked down and use the army to stop people travelling out of them (as they did in Northern Italy)

You're correct, the Government aren't spreading the virus, but they are making a complete hash of running the country whilst all this is going on. They are unable to get passed their own hubris to navigate us safely through the pandemic.

The actions of the government and its cronies are lamentable. 



Please keep your left wing politics off a rugby messageboard. Have you the faintest idea what is going on in Spain,Italy,France,Ireland etc.
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Originally posted by Trailfinder Trailfinder wrote:

Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Ealing vs. Newcastle match on the 7th will go ahead with no fans. They are making ot available to stream for £10. Personally, I am gutted. Given that the local wendyball club down the road is allowed 500 fans per match, I dont see why at least season ticket holders couldnt have been allowed. Not sure if I will stream, or stand at the fence where I know there is a good view.


Tempting but I will pay for the match anyway, all suport needed even if we are one of the lucky ones with a wealthy benefactor. Question for the forum: will any non Ealing or Falcons supporters be purchasing the pay per view or is that a step too far?

What a good and interesting question. Let's see if anyone answers this, or if they just carry on arguing about Coronavirus.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Deva Delinquent Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct 2020 at 15:26
Originally posted by Fly Half Fly Half wrote:

Originally posted by Deva Delinquent Deva Delinquent wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Deva Delinquent Deva Delinquent wrote:

Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

Vaccines are imminent, could be within a month but not enough available for the whole country to start off with, these will be in the shape of the Flu vaccine so be required annually to adapt to the mutations in the virus. If (and it is a big if) we can get enough vaccines out  to the general population I would guess a very earl Spring or late Winter is feasible. Hope springs eternal Smile


The last indication I saw was that the vaccine would probably be needed at least twice a year to maintain antibodies. I would suggest March/April is most likely for a start if it happens at all.

At the moment we are closer to a full lockdown than further opening up of restrictions.


They do a full lockdown, there will be a riot. Quite rightly, most of the south will argue why should they be punished for the Government's failures?


There, fixed that for you 👍


It's not the government spreading the virus its W******s who don't stick to the rules and idiots who risk their citizens lives trying to extract more money than other places to agree to enter tier 3.

Virtually every problem area is a large conurbation. They should be locked down and use the army to stop people travelling out of them (as they did in Northern Italy)

You're correct, the Government aren't spreading the virus, but they are making a complete hash of running the country whilst all this is going on. They are unable to get passed their own hubris to navigate us safely through the pandemic.

The actions of the government and its cronies are lamentable. 



Please keep your left wing politics off a rugby messageboard. Have you the faintest idea what is going on in Spain,Italy,France,Ireland etc.
Are your eyes painted on or something? Where on this thread - or anywhere on this board for that matter - have I stated that I'm left wing?

Our government have handled this pandemic terribly. How remiss of me to forget that it's only the left wing that are allowed criticise. 


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Guess we get the Riot Gear out as Lockdown Part Deux is on the Horizon. This Government under pressure from "supporting" industries took us out of Lockdown 1 too early and then fed the Youth of the UK thru the Covid spreading grinder to infect more and more. Who decided that sending Students to Halls of Residence to remote learn was a good idea than leaving them at home to remote learn? Nothing Left Wing about that, how about bloody common sense?
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Originally posted by Trailfinder Trailfinder wrote:

Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Ealing vs. Newcastle match on the 7th will go ahead with no fans. They are making ot available to stream for £10. Personally, I am gutted. Given that the local wendyball club down the road is allowed 500 fans per match, I dont see why at least season ticket holders couldnt have been allowed. Not sure if I will stream, or stand at the fence where I know there is a good view.


Tempting but I will pay for the match anyway, all suport needed even if we are one of the lucky ones with a wealthy benefactor. Question for the forum: will any non Ealing or Falcons supporters be purchasing the pay per view or is that a step too far?
Iam happy to pay £10 and will hope to watch it from St Ouen with a glass of Liberation Ale - two good teams and there are old Gris Ventre in both squads who are always welcome back here.
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CC - it’s a pity you don’t live closer as Doncaster are selling portions of Cow Pie, Chips and Peas for collection on Saturday lunchtimes prior to the big games on TV. Can also buy 2 pints of Guinness as part of the package - John
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Originally posted by JohnLowe JohnLowe wrote:

CC - it’s a pity you don’t live closer as Doncaster are selling portions of Cow Pie, Chips and Peas for collection on Saturday lunchtimes prior to the big games on TV. Can also buy 2 pints of Guinness as part of the package - John

Now that's just rubbing it in Mr Lowe.

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Originally posted by JohnLowe JohnLowe wrote:

CC - it’s a pity you don’t live closer as Doncaster are selling portions of Cow Pie, Chips and Peas for collection on Saturday lunchtimes prior to the big games on TV. Can also buy 2 pints of Guinness as part of the package - John

But not for long. Pubs and restaurants will be allowed to stay open for takeaways but only of food, not alcohol.
That's easy for you to say.
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You suggest that Labour would not  make a better job of it when Keir Starmer called for the very policy the Govt is now adopting, six weeks ago when it might have had some real effect.. 
I sit here as the owner of one hospitality business which I have already had to close and another one where apparently I will have the massive bonus of a £2k grant to compensate me for complete closure after 3 months of trading at 75% capacity.



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Doncaster in pre-season training 


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Originally posted by knightandday knightandday wrote:


Doncaster in pre-season training 


https://www.drfc.co.uk/the-boys-are-back/



How many clubs are training now? Jersey have been for a couple of months, Ealing clearly as well, with 2 games under their belts. Can others confirm if their squad are now training?
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Following the new lockdown, i'm unsure what the current situation is.
However teams i know to have at least started training were those you've mentioned plus Coventry, Scottish , Richmond, Hartpury.
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Great to see Donny back into full training but that is because they are paying themselves for the whole squad and staff to be tested at more than £4k per week. The other teams mentioned may well be training but they will only be doing very limited contact work plus no scrums or mauls if they are following RFU guidelines. 
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How on earth can people honestly believe that rugby is going to start again in January given that there is already talk of more severe tiered lockdowns once the current one reaches its conclusion on 2nd December?
Add to that the promised vaccines won't be available till summer at the earliest. Pipedream! 
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