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    Posted: 27 Aug 2019 at 16:36
With just over 1 week before the season kicks off properly, I ask if anyone is willing to manage the forums Predictions competition. For the last two seasons Fatty1973 our friend from Hertford has graciously and efficiently undertaken the task, but I am unsure if he is willing to undertake a 3rd season.?Is there anyone out there willing and capable of undertaking the job?
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Thank you for posting the request Fez, I have actually done the Predictions League for the last 3 seasons! It is time for someone else to take it on. I am away with work for the next month so I am unable to take it on again.
I hope that someone does step forward, it is not an arduous task and it does make the season more interesting.
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Originally posted by Fatty1973 Fatty1973 wrote:

Thank you for posting the request Fez, I have actually done the Predictions League for the last 3 seasons! It is time for someone else to take it on. I am away with work for the next month so I am unable to take it on again.
I hope that someone does step forward, it is not an arduous task and it does make the season more interesting.
Thanks Fatty. I thought that was the position for you, and you did such a great job for all of us in previous years. It is a good and fun forum and would be a shame if we did not have it again. I sadly cannot put myself forward as i dont feel sufficiently IT literate and competent, and believe this is for a much younger and able poster. Anyone out there??
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I am pleased to do my bit this year
 
One quick question though is where do you get the full results to check for number of tries, as from memory these do not appear on the RFU site?
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More than happy to do and put myself forward. Thank you Fatty1973 for the time and effort that goes towards it!
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So ahead of the first guesses, what are people thinking this year? I've been quite amazed actually at how quiet it's been on here from us SE lot (a lot of noise from t'up North though..)

My early top 3 (based on nothing but history and pure speculation)
In no particular order at this stage:

Wimbledon: should have won the league last year (as they were the best side I saw all season). I think they will be up there again. 
Guernsey: always tough to reacclimatise after a drop but their home form alone will see them sitting pretty near the top. Being well funded helps and I'm sure will be aiming to a return at the first attempt. 
London Irish: same as Guernsey but not as strong. I still expect them to be up there in the mix. 

Pushing top 4
Hertford: Always there or thereabouts. If they can nail some consistency then they'll finish higher. A strong squad and a team that plays for each other. 
Tring: As above really. Similar sides with plenty of good players and experience. 

Bottom 3
Brighton: Have some very good, talented players but as we know at this level it's all about strength in depth which I fear that may not have. However, it is a tricky place to go and play so their home form will be vital for them. Their friendly results don't fill me with hope either (obviously take with a pinch of salt, a draw with Horsham and a loss to Brentwood). 
Guildford: Purely based on last year (and their somewhat great escape) but have flirted for a while now at the wrong bit of the table. 
Tunbridge Wells: May be a bit of a surprise to some, but my "local" team seem to be struggling somewhat. Lost half a pack from last year including the always impressive Dave Allen and one of their most dangerous backs to Richmond.

Surprise packages
Sevenoaks: There is something happening at the Oaks and it's all positive. A strong club from minis to seniors. Whilst I don't fully buy completely their "fully amateur status" I think they will surprise a lot this year, supported by a strong coaching set up. 
Rochford Hundred: A lot of talk about them flying through this league with all the money in Essex supposedly but I'm not so sure. I think, whilst they will do well they will surprise many with an average (by any other teams standards) finish rather than the predicted by many top 4. 

The other teams in the league will make up the mid order pack. I think Sidcup and CS looking over their shoulder with Dorking and Bedford looking maybe more comfortable than they did last year. 
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Originally posted by Kentish Odd balls Kentish Odd balls wrote:

Surprise packages
Sevenoaks: There is something happening at the Oaks and it's all positive. A strong club from minis to seniors. Whilst I don't fully buy completely their "fully amateur status" I think they will surprise a lot this year, supported by a strong coaching set up. 
Rochford Hundred: A lot of talk about them flying through this league with all the money in Essex supposedly but I'm not so sure. I think, whilst they will do well they will surprise many with an average (by any other teams standards) finish rather than the predicted by many top 4.


I totally agree on both of these.  Sevenoaks had a very strong season last year across the board.  The attitude will be right.  It just remains to be seen whether they'll have the strength in depth and manage the increased physicality at Level 5.  Certainly as a TW supporter I'll be looking forward to the A21 derby this year, and I know Sevenoaks will be looking to make a point. It should be good.   

Rochford have Tring (A), Hertford (H), Bedford (A) and Guernsey (H) in the first month.  As long as Tring don't start the season cold we should have a good indication of how they're going to go within a few weeks... in fact Tring v Rochford is, for me, fixture of the week on week 1.

Top 3 - Guernsey, Wimbledon, Tring
Bottom 3 - Guildford, Stags, Brighton 

I'm not seeing any sides that I'm thinking are obviously going to be the side to have a tough time week in week out this season.  If you look at the points at the end of last season there are five surviving sides who were within 4 points of each other just above the drop zone.  The top of the table will be interesting as ever, but I do think the real interest will be towards the foot.  This league just gets tougher and tougher.  

I'm looking forward to it now.  Let's get on with it!
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Originally posted by BruceElliott BruceElliott wrote:

Originally posted by Kentish Odd balls Kentish Odd balls wrote:

Surprise packages
Sevenoaks: There is something happening at the Oaks and it's all positive. A strong club from minis to seniors. Whilst I don't fully buy completely their "fully amateur status" I think they will surprise a lot this year, supported by a strong coaching set up. 
Rochford Hundred: A lot of talk about them flying through this league with all the money in Essex supposedly but I'm not so sure. I think, whilst they will do well they will surprise many with an average (by any other teams standards) finish rather than the predicted by many top 4.


I totally agree on both of these.  Sevenoaks had a very strong season last year across the board.  The attitude will be right.  It just remains to be seen whether they'll have the strength in depth and manage the increased physicality at Level 5.  Certainly as a TW supporter I'll be looking forward to the A21 derby this year, and I know Sevenoaks will be looking to make a point. It should be good.   

Rochford have Tring (A), Hertford (H), Bedford (A) and Guernsey (H) in the first month.  As long as Tring don't start the season cold we should have a good indication of how they're going to go within a few weeks... in fact Tring v Rochford is, for me, fixture of the week on week 1.

Top 3 - Guernsey, Wimbledon, Tring
Bottom 3 - Guildford, Stags, Brighton 

I'm not seeing any sides that I'm thinking are obviously going to be the side to have a tough time week in week out this season.  If you look at the points at the end of last season there are five surviving sides who were within 4 points of each other just above the drop zone.  The top of the table will be interesting as ever, but I do think the real interest will be towards the foot.  This league just gets tougher and tougher.  

I'm looking forward to it now.  Let's get on with it!


Bruce, as a T Wells man any news on your club? Wells were tipped to do well last year but struggled at times. And not really a peep of anything really on the club website. I'd love to see both Oaks and Wells finish strong this year. It will be fantastic for the local area with TJ's recent successes as well. 
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Hi all,
New to N3LSE predictions, do I just post each week or do I need to join formally?
How does the system work?
Looks like we are in the bottom 3 already looking at some posts.
Looking forward to some new clubs,long road trips and new beers.
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Originally posted by Karlos Karlos wrote:

Hi all,
New to N3LSE predictions, do I just post each week or do I need to join formally?
How does the system work?
Looks like we are in the bottom 3 already looking at some posts.
Looking forward to some new clubs,long road trips and new beers.


Good luck to Brighton for this season Karlos. I’m a supporter of Westcliff and we had a great day at your club a few years back with my son on a youth tour. I remember a Freddie Mercury tribute singing on your balcony that day and the club was rocking :-) When our 1s were promoted into N3LSE a few seasons ago, we found it a tough step up, but we loved the league and fought as hard as we could to stay in it and after yo yo’ing between N3LSE and London 1 we eventually got to grips with this league ( too well last season ! ). I hope you enjoy the season and do well.
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Originally posted by Karlos Karlos wrote:

Hi all,
New to N3LSE predictions, do I just post each week or do I need to join formally?
How does the system work?
Looks like we are in the bottom 3 already looking at some posts.
Looking forward to some new clubs,long road trips and new beers.
Welcome mate and good luck to Brighton and all other teams in this fantastic league. Firstly we have to establish who will be taking over from Fatty1973. Two have put their names forward and I suggest they liaise with Fatty1973 and maybe Camquin for a heads up, and decide who will take over the reigns.
Once a decision has been made and agreed whoever runs this will post the fixtures each week, usually by Tuesday and then leave us all to make fools of ourselves. Fatty has the SP and points scoring details for correct W/D/L predictions, and then posts the scores consecutively for each participant weekly. If you look at last seasons forum you will see the format and table. Hope this helps.
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For whoever decides to take over this season.
Post the fixtures early in the week, Monday or latest Tuesday.
For those predicting, you are predicting how many league points each team will get from each fixture,
For example, Dorking v Wimbledon, if you think that Dorking will beat Wimbledon 42-35 with both sides scoring 4 or more Tries, your prediction would be Dorking 5-2 Wimbledon, win + try bonus vs try bonus + losing bonus point for losing by 7 points or less.
If you think a match will be a draw, 2-2 or 3-3 if you think both team should will get a Try bonus as well.
With regards to doing the scoring, you get 4 points for getting the prediction absolutely correct, 3 points if you only get the correct winner. 0 points for anything else.
Someone asked about getting the results and amount of Tries scores. I used to copy the league table before each round of matches and work out the points from that. Often the results are self explanatory, if a result is 12-6 you know the correct prediction is 4-1.
As I have always said, please encourage Predictors to add some comments, a Forum is about opinions as well.
Any further questions, please ask.

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Originally posted by Kentish Odd balls Kentish Odd balls wrote:


Bruce, as a T Wells man any news on your club? Wells were tipped to do well last year but struggled at times. And not really a peep of anything really on the club website. I'd love to see both Oaks and Wells finish strong this year. It will be fantastic for the local area with TJ's recent successes as well. 


I'm a step or two removed from management so I don't hear much, and as one of the only ones in here posting under my own name I tend to be fairly careful about what I do say!  I've noticed from your posts over the last couple of years that you seem better informed than me.  

I missed the WP pre-season match.  I was there last weekend for the RC Soignies match.  The squad for WP was very thin.  We had a better selection last weekend, but still not quite full strength.  Honestly, there were signs of rust, but some real positives as well.  

If you're around we're playing TJs on Saturday.  
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Well a few of us have nailed our thoughts to the post, here's my thoughts.

Top 3ish alphabetically 
Guernsey - Came down last year and they could easily jump straight back up with their players.
London Irish Wilde Geese - Heard that the pro team are supporting them again this season, so expect some interesting things from the Celts.
Tring - They looked good last season and I think they will be there or there abouts this year.
Wimbledon - Surely this has to be their season for promotion, one of the strongest teams in the league.

Bottom 3ish alphabetically 
Brighton - Don't think thy have enough depth for L5, they won a few lucky ones last year and they may be flattering themselves.
Civil Service - I can't see how a single club team will survive at L5.
Dorking - They seem to be finishing lower and lower each season, I think this is the year for relegation for them.
Guildford - I have heard they've lost players to LIWG and others a s they have an unhappy camp, could be be L6 for them next year.
Rucks and mauls may bust my balls, but whips and chains excite me!!
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Originally posted by Cannon Cannon wrote:

Well a few of us have nailed our thoughts to the post, here's my thoughts.

Top 3ish alphabetically 
Guernsey - Came down last year and they could easily jump straight back up with their players.
London Irish Wilde Geese - Heard that the pro team are supporting them again this season, so expect some interesting things from the Celts.
Tring - They looked good last season and I think they will be there or there abouts this year.
Wimbledon - Surely this has to be their season for promotion, one of the strongest teams in the league.

Bottom 3ish alphabetically 
Brighton - Don't think thy have enough depth for L5, they won a few lucky ones last year and they may be flattering themselves.
Civil Service - I can't see how a single club team will survive at L5.
Dorking - They seem to be finishing lower and lower each season, I think this is the year for relegation for them.
Guildford - I have heard they've lost players to LIWG and others a s they have an unhappy camp, could be be L6 for them next year.


I'm not sure London Irish can DR players to LIWG as there are too many divisions between the 2 sides?
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Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Cannon Cannon wrote:

Well a few of us have nailed our thoughts to the post, here's my thoughts.

Top 3ish alphabetically 
Guernsey - Came down last year and they could easily jump straight back up with their players.
London Irish Wilde Geese - Heard that the pro team are supporting them again this season, so expect some interesting things from the Celts.
Tring - They looked good last season and I think they will be there or there abouts this year.
Wimbledon - Surely this has to be their season for promotion, one of the strongest teams in the league.

Bottom 3ish alphabetically 
Brighton - Don't think thy have enough depth for L5, they won a few lucky ones last year and they may be flattering themselves.
Civil Service - I can't see how a single club team will survive at L5.
Dorking - They seem to be finishing lower and lower each season, I think this is the year for relegation for them.
Guildford - I have heard they've lost players to LIWG and others a s they have an unhappy camp, could be be L6 for them next year.


I'm not sure London Irish can DR players to LIWG as there are too many divisions between the 2 sides?
I'm definitely not suggesting DR, just that they are getting coaching and logistical support from the pros. I suspect they'll probably encourage Academy players to play for LIWG (no evidence though). 
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Top 3
London Irish
Wimbledon 
Tunbridge Wells

Bottom 3
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Brighton
Guildford
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Thanks for running the show Fatty....

thinking of heading down to Brighton next week as it's surprisingly easy to get to from oop north, but not expecting us to be top 2 this season. I've tipped Guildford to go down every year since they came up so don't see any reason to change that. Smile

Bottom 3:  Guildford, Sevenoaks, CS
Top 3:       not fussed unless we are there or there abouts




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For what it's worth and probably all wrong...
Top 3....
LIWG,Guernsey and 7Oaks
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Guildford,Dorking and Tunbridge Wells
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Any ideas who the following are playing today as possible last pre season friendlies?

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