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    Posted: 16 Jun 2017 at 19:49
just for a bit of fun over the summer I thought i'd predict what the final order may be next season.

1. Bristol - The best team by an absolute mile and certainties for promotion. Not an unbeaten season for me though.
2. Doncaster - Donny to repeat their feat from two seasons ago and finish runners up. The nucleus of the squad is still there.
3. Bedford - Strong recruitment from Blues should see them massively improve in my opinion.
4. Ealing - Ealing will be similar to last season I think but will cause everyone trouble
5. London Scottish - bit of a punt here but some of LS's signings look good on paper. Could've done with keeping Peter Lydon though.
6. Jersey - Not much idea on Jersey's new signings so guesswork in a way. Donny will find out how good they are in round 1 at St Peter.
7. Cornish Pirates - Pirates will be in mid-table I think this season and will still maintain the capability to beat some of the big boys.
8. Yorkshire Carnegie - I was tempted to put Yorkies even lower than this. They've lost a load of their best players and I don't see enough re-inforcements coming in. A big bump back down to earth awaits.
9. Hartpury College - College will survive in my opinion looking at some of their signings. they may surprise a few of the so-called bigger teams.
10 - Rotherham - I'm really not sure about Roth but i'm putting them 10th because I think some of the teams above them have strengthened more.
11. Richmond - better for the experience of last season, Richmond will beat the drop again I feel.
12. Nottingham - I hope this doesn't come to pass but I can see Nottingham struggling this season. I don't think they've signed enough quality players yet.

I have to admit some of these are guesses. What do other posters think? I think the relegation battle is wide open this season with no obvious 12th placed candidate.




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Are you including the impact of Redpath leaving in that Carnegie drop?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Donnyknightsfan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jun 2017 at 23:42
Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Are you including the impact of Redpath leaving in that Carnegie drop?


that will definitely have some effect but my prediction is based more in terms of the players that Carnegie have lost and IMO as of yet haven't replaced.
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That London Scottish prediction looks bold seeing they've lost their best players and gone part time
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1. Bristol - Obviously. Expect an unbeaten season.
2. Ealing - Thrown a lot of money at their squad and made some proven champ signings (Lydon, O'Connor) and expect them to be only team to challenge Bristol in a game.
3. Doncaster - Kept almost all of their squad. Made some good signings (Hill and James off us). Can't see them finishing outside top 4.
4. Bedford - Maybe a tad optimistic, but have made some decent signings. Lost a lot of close games last year so hoping we'll see a big improvement. Still lacking in 2nd row/back row and currently have a lack of centres which is a worry.
5. Yorkshire Carnegie - Everybody will predict them to be weaker than last season, but they've kept enough players that I don't think they'll capitulate.
6. Cornish Pirates - Expect a similar season to last year with broadly consistent squad.
7. Jersey - Think they will struggle to finish top half after seeing their awesome pack be decimated. Wouldn't be surprised if they finished a bit lower.
8. Nottingham - Think there pack will be stronger this year with the influence of Ian Costello. May not be attractive to watch but will grind out enough wins to avoid a relegation battle.
9. London Scottish - Depends how well they adjust to being part time. Have signed some decent players, but also lost some quality too. Have got 3 players from Bedford's team circa 2010, and I'm not convinced all of those are champ quality anymore! Intrigued to see how Sharp gets on, he only really thrives if allowed to play his natural game which doesn't really adhere to usual champ systems!
10. Rotherham - Given their usual huge player turnover, they are an unknown as per. I rate Andy Key but I think they'll struggle again.
11. Hartpury College - Maybe they'll prove me wrong but every team has struggled in with their first season in the champ. They don't have that many players with champ experience and they have also lost a couple of their stand outs from last year. Obviously I'm wrong as several hartpury fans have assured everyone on here they will comfortably finish top 4.
12. Richmond - Think they may suffer with second season syndrome. The London Welsh saga helped them last year too. Let's not forget if you add Rotherham's win again LW back in Richmond would've been bottom.

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I thought Bedford and LS will have a similar structure for next season, which has not done Bedford any harm. If some think they can finish the top 4, then others may think that LS may also finish in the top 4
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1. Bristol - Similar to Irish last season
2. Ealing - If they keep their form
3. Doncaster - As for Ealing
4. Yorkshire Carnegie-But depends on how loss of players affects them
5. Cornish Pirates- Always have a chance against anyone.
6. Jersey- Depends on how they assimilate new players
7. Richmond-If they maintain the form they showed in the second half of last season
8. London Scottish-Depends on so many unknowns,part time factor being one of them.
9. Bedford-If their new players gel they'll do better, but were prone to disintegration.
10. Nottingham-Not too impressed with them.
11. Hartpury College - Competent  at N1 level but pack not that good for this level-maybe imports will improve it.I did go to see them twice.
12. Rotherham-least impressive team I saw last season. OK on their own ground, but need a miracle in my opinion.
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We were so bad we beat you twice but we had problems for sure. Last season will have no bearing on this season and my predictions are as follows :

1. Bristol
2. Ealing
3. Doncaster
4. Cornish Pirates
5. Nottingham
6. Titans
7. Bedford
8. Yorkshire Carnegie
9. Hartpury
10. Jersey
11. London Scottish
12. Richmond
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1) Bristol
2) Ealing
3) Bedford Blues
4) Doncaster Knights
5) Jersey
6) Yorkshire Carnegie
7) Cornish Pirates
8) Nottingham
9) London Scottish
10) Richmond
11) Hartpury College
12) Rotherham Titans
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pappashanga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jun 2017 at 13:40
On the day Mond were even worse, but we did beat the Pirates twice and as you say the new season is just that. Mond have the advantage of continuity. Teams that have made wholesale changes run a risk things won't gel.
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Please will everyone bear in my nod that London Scottish has not gone fully part-time, by any means. Balance at the moment is about 70:30 FT:PT. just trying a different approach without going wholesale part-time. Richmond will definitely have the confidence through continuity again from last season, whereas most squads will have had significant changes in the off-season.
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1.Bristol  - The banker of all carrot bankers but I still hope Jersey give them a decent game at St Peter.
2. Ealing - quality well funded side who deserve better support.
3. Leeds - a distant third behind Briz & Trailfinders but one day will be back in the premiership for one season.

4. Doncaster -A distant fourth with nowt to play for.

5. Cornish Pirates mid table will be fine as they build to a future at S4C.
6. Blues - mid table could be anywhere from 5-8th place.

Bottom 6 (Anyone could go down)

7. Nottingham -will surely build a decent future in the Championship but could also be anywhere from 6-10th place.

8. Scottish -Should have enough in the tank to avoid 12th place.
9. Jersey -Ninth would be a great result next season given the turnover of players and the financial problems at the club.
10. Hartpury -Should do well in their first championship season.
11Titans - The best club to visit bar none for me I hope they sort things out.

12. Richmond - Great club who would probably come straight back if they go down.

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1. Bristol - but will lose one or two matches. Not seen the fixtures but promotion maybe be secure by end of January
We cares below this but.....
2. Ealing - score a lot of tries
3. Leeds - still a pretty strong squad
4. Donny - as above
5. Blues - Recruited well, teams will play more carefree as not trying to get into play-offs. This style will suit Bedford
6. Pirates - continuity of squad but the Chiefs DR gravy train may be drying with the increased 'A' league fixtures
7. Jersey - money problems? Coach signs new 4 yr deal, lots of new players, money seems to be available.....
8. Richmond - p/t continuity in squad
9. Hartpury - will struggle early on but score lots of tries so will pick up BP and then wins
10. Scottish - p/t new squad
11. Nottingham - not a great squad
12. Rotherham - a lot of re-building to do
 
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1. Bristol - They will destroy the league - all done by Christmas
2. Ealing - Money talks - good coach too
3. Doncaster - Good Squad - experienced
4. Leeds - Lack of investment
5. Blues - They will be strong, well recruited
6. Pirates - Always in the mix
7. Jersey - Curates egg
8. Hartpury - full time squad with strong links, they may even hit top 4
9. Scottish - Anywhere between 5 th and 10th for LS
10. Rotherham - Not sure, but some decent recruits
11. Richmond - 2nd season syndrome , still a big ask for lads with other careers - and they dont recruit.
12. Nottingham - A mixed bag but looked weak at the end of last season.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote castleparknight Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jun 2017 at 12:27
I will predict one thing, with any certainty, for the Knights - the Yorkshire Regiment Trophy this season is theirs for the taking

as for the table my guess:
1 Bristol
2-7 (in no particular order) Donny, Ealing, Pirates, The Team formerly known as Leeds, Rotherham (Hope they have turned the corner - second in the Regiment Trophy), Bedford.
8 - 10 (in no particular order) Scottish, Jersey, Nottingham
11-12 Hartpury & Richmond (fighting it out)
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1) Bristol
2) Ealing
3) Yorkshire/Leeds
4) Doncaster Knights
5) Cornwall
6) Bedford Blues
7) Jersey
8) Nottingham
9) London Scottish
10) Rotherham
11) Richmond
12) Hartpury
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I don't think Blues recruitment has been very good at the moment.  A couple of "names" but nothing to address the concerns (back 5 of scrum) of last year and in fact if anything we have become weaker in that department.  Hoping that we have a few more surprises in store.  
 
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Originally posted by The Blues The Blues wrote:


I don't think Blues recruitment has been very good at the moment.  A couple of "names" but nothing to address the concerns (back 5 of scrum) of last year and in fact if anything we have become weaker in that department.  Hoping that we have a few more surprises in store.  
 

Alex Rae will make a big difference for you, both on the field and on the training ground. He can play in any of the back 5 positions in the scrum, probably with the exception of no. 8, but would still do a job there.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Westcoaster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jun 2017 at 22:22
Bit early to be doing any prediction involving Jersey: squad not finalised;  preseason only just started; no Captain yet announced, playing or Club; I hardly know any of the new names.  June is way too early for realistic predictions.
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Nottingham still have signings to announce, allegedly....
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